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Feb 8 2024 05:51pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 8 2024 03:25pm)
special counsel has released the findings of his report into joe biden's mishandling of classified documents:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/special-counsel-says-evidence-biden-willfully-retained-disclosed-class-rcna96666

results:
* will not charge Biden with a crime
* found biden "presented serious risks to national security"
* found biden portrayed himself as "an elderly man with a poor memory"
* found biden 'willfully retained and disclosed classified materials'


The senility precedent. You won't be convicted, but you will go the senior home and you will be happy about it.
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Feb 8 2024 05:57pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 8 2024 05:50pm)
Thats not even close. He told investigators he had brought home documents and destroyed them by throwing them into a lake. Which is what he did. He tried to dispose of them so there would be no security risk. The government has their own process for shredding documents and didnt approve, and fished the documents back out of the lake so they could charge him with still having them.

How could it be more innocent? He cooperated and was forthright AND he tried to dispose of documents proactively. He shared them with nobody. Joe Biden wilfully retained documents and shared them with people illegally.


Well right there's your answer. Bro threw them in a lake. He didn't return the documents for destruction, and I don't buy for a second he threw them in the lake to "prevent national security risk". He either threw them in the lake before reporting himself, in which case to hide the evidence, or he threw them in the lake after, which obstructs the investigation.

Either way, again, not the winning argument you think it is.

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2015/07/30/navy-engineer-sentenced-for-mishandling-classified-material/

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He was sentenced to two years of probation and a $7,500 fine, and was ordered to surrender his security clearance. He is barred from seeking a future security clearance.



and oh look, he barely got a slap on the wrist.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Feb 8 2024 05:59pm
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Feb 8 2024 06:36pm
so, senile old man wont be charged b/c... hes senile old man?
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Feb 8 2024 07:02pm
Quote (Warlock316 @ Feb 8 2024 04:36pm)
so, senile old man wont be charged b/c... hes senile old man?


He set a precedent that Trump too cannot be charged, as he is also a "senile" old man.
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Feb 8 2024 07:29pm
Just listened to Joe Biden read directly off a teleprompter he even gave me a big laugh when he read OUT LOUD, "END OF QUOTE"

What a fuckin idiot....
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Feb 8 2024 08:08pm
Quote (Warlock316 @ Feb 8 2024 06:36pm)
so, senile old man wont be charged b/c... hes senile old man?


Nah, he's not being charged because basically nobody is charged if they don't actively obstruct the investigation.

Goom has been digging for months and all he's come up with for counter examples are a kid who got a small fine for throwing docs in a lake, and somebody who fell for a Chinese honeypot. The first of which might as well not be a punishment at all, and the second being that the person was so monumentally stupid he deserved it.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ 8 Feb 2024 20:08)
Nah, he's not being charged because basically nobody is charged if they don't actively obstruct the investigation.

Goom has been digging for months and all he's come up with for counter examples are a kid who got a small fine for throwing docs in a lake, and somebody who fell for a Chinese honeypot. The first of which might as well not be a punishment at all, and the second being that the person was so monumentally stupid he deserved it.


Did you listen to the press briefing he just gave?

Really should.

You go out of your way to defend a person whose mental faculties disappear more and more everyday right in front of the public’s eyes. Go watch that 20 minutes and come back here and say “Joe Biden is mentally fit for another 4 years”
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Feb 8 2024 08:42pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Feb 8 2024 08:35pm)
Did you listen to the press briefing he just gave?

Really should.

You go out of your way to defend a person whose mental faculties disappear more and more everyday right in front of the public’s eyes. Go watch that 20 minutes and come back here and say “Joe Biden is mentally fit for another 4 years”


I don't think Biden is fit for another 4 years.

I don't think Trump is either.

Or RFK to be honest.

We have no good options. The system is broken.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ 8 Feb 2024 20:42)
I don't think Biden is fit for another 4 years.

I don't think Trump is either.

Or RFK to be honest.

We have no good options. The system is broken.


I agree with you.

Don’t get me wrong RFK was refreshing for me because he can actually talk about complex issues without sounding ignorant of the issue itself.

I get the whole independents can’t win but I mean Trump and Biden just need to step away.

I’ve never voted in a presidential election and the fact that my state(Illinois) will just support Biden is scary.

I have family who have always voted Dem/Rep and I’ve heard all of them say good things about RFK.

I don’t know much about the electoral college or delegates but this is the first time I’ve become political because it’s just so bad.

No clue what to do and I don’t have a solution which is a bad excuse.

Joe Biden slipped up real bad in his press conference multiple times. Let him go live out the rest of his years with his family and grandkids.

Who is the next front runner for the democrat party if he did drop out or is that a non-option?
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Feb 8 2024 09:02pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Feb 8 2024 08:57pm)
I agree with you.

Don’t get me wrong RFK was refreshing for me because he can actually talk about complex issues without sounding ignorant of the issue itself.

I get the whole independents can’t win but I mean Trump and Biden just need to step away.

I’ve never voted in a presidential election and the fact that my state(Illinois) will just support Biden is scary.

I have family who have always voted Dem/Rep and I’ve heard all of them say good things about RFK.

I don’t know much about the electoral college or delegates but this is the first time I’ve become political because it’s just so bad.

No clue what to do and I don’t have a solution which is a bad excuse.

Joe Biden slipped up real bad in his press conference multiple times. Let him go live out the rest of his years with his family and grandkids.

Who is the next front runner for the democrat party if he did drop out or is that a non-option?


They have nobody ready to take the wheel.

The problem with democrats as a party is they rarely foster new growth. They are highly entrenched corporatists and new growth would require they foster younger people who want things we should have had 50 years ago, like real healthcare reform and union support.

So the result is there's really nobody to take Bidens place.
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