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Dec 3 2024 11:43am
Quote (Ghot @ Dec 3 2024 01:40pm)
Whoa, you jumped right to the "bargaining" stage. :)


This doesn't make any sense.
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Dec 3 2024 04:39pm
Quote (IceMage @ 3 Dec 2024 12:53)
It was a clear electoral college victory but he won the popular vote by less than Hillary did in 2016, lol.

Hillary Clinton got more of a percentage of votes in 2016 with her loss than Trump did in 2024 with his win. That's kind of embarrassing for him, no?


The popular vote totals and margins in 2016 were massively distorted by a strong showing of third parties.

Libertarian party vote share in 2016: 3.3%
Libertarian party in 2024: 0.4%

Fact of the matter is that Trump got 50% of the vote in 2024 while Clinton got 48.2% in 2016. You're REALLY grasping at straws to argue that that is somehow evidence that Trump is oh-so unpopular.


You're also ignoring the fact that Trump added 3 million additional votes to his column (amidst a slightly lower turnout level). And that in two dozen different states, Trump set a record for the highest absolute number of votes any candidate has ever received in state history. Among them swing states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada, but also big, diverse states like Texas and Florida. Or that Trump's 50% of the popular vote is a mark which the respective Democratic candidate failed to reach in 6 of the past 9 elections.
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The popular vote totals and margins in 2016 were massively distorted by a strong showing of third parties.

Libertarian party vote share in 2016: 3.3%
Libertarian party in 2024: 0.4%

Fact of the matter is that Trump got 50% of the vote in 2024 while Clinton got 48.2% in 2016. You're REALLY grasping at straws to argue that that is somehow evidence that Trump is oh-so unpopular.


You're also ignoring the fact that Trump added 3 million additional votes to his column (amidst a slightly lower turnout level). And that in two dozen different states, Trump set a record for the highest absolute number of votes any candidate has ever received in state history. Among them swing states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada, but also big, diverse states like Texas and Florida. Or that Trump's 50% of the popular vote is a mark which the respective Democratic candidate failed to reach in 6 of the past 9 elections.


This sounds like cope.
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Dec 3 2024 05:03pm
Quote (IceMage @ 3 Dec 2024 23:50)
This sounds like cope.


Cope for what? That Trump won the EC and the popular vote comfortably? That he made dramatic inroads with young and non-white voters, thus shredding all the Democratic talk about their "emerging structural majority"? That he comes in with a trifecta and a 6-3 supermajority on the Supreme Court?

In spite of bungling covid and the floyd protests, in spite of January 6 and the felony conviction, in spite of being outraised by his opponent by a more than 2:1 margin, in spite of his authoritarian rhetoric and his flagrant disregard for America's institutional order, Trump is literally more popular now than he has ever been before. In spite of all the #resistance, headwinds and his personal baggage and character flaws, he was able to put together a proper majority coalition.

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Cope for what? That Trump won the EC and the popular vote comfortably? That he made dramatic inroads with young and non-white voters, thus shredding all the Democratic talk about their "emerging structural majority"? That he comes in with a trifecta and a 6-3 supermajority on the Supreme Court?

In spite of bungling covid and the floyd protests, in spite of January 6 and the felony conviction, in spite of being outraised by his opponent by a more than 2:1 margin, in spite of his authoritarian rhetoric and his flagrant disregard for America's institutional order, Trump is literally more popular now than he has ever been before. In spite of all the #resistance, headwinds and his personal baggage and character flaws, he was able to put together a proper majority coalition.


This is cope bruh.
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Dec 3 2024 05:40pm
Quote (IceMage @ Dec 3 2024 03:23pm)
This is cope bruh.


All you do is project lol
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Dec 3 2024 06:18pm
Quote (IceMage @ 4 Dec 2024 00:23)
This is cope bruh.

Weak trolling. Sad. Do better.
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Dec 3 2024 09:38pm
Quote (IceMage @ 3 Dec 2024 04:53)
It was a clear electoral college victory but he won the popular vote by less than Hillary did in 2016, lol.

Hillary Clinton got more of a percentage of votes in 2016 with her loss than Trump did in 2024 with his win. That's kind of embarrassing for him, no?


Nah. Even then, remove California from the numbers, and Trump won the popular vote. Marxists should be highly concerned, to be honest. How is it that Commiefornia went from 61.73% Clinton, 31.62% Trump, to 58.5% Kamala 38.3% Trump?

Even the most Marxist State in the nation is seeing their progressive candidates lose ground to the America First movement. Isn't that weird?
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Dec 3 2024 11:05pm
Quote (IceMage @ Dec 4 2024 12:25am)
I think the fact that more of a percentage of Americans voted for Hillary in 2016 than they did for Trump in 2024 is kind of embarrassing, lol. He's not popular at all.


You just lost the white house, the senate and the house to this unpopular candidate :santa:
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Nah. Even then, remove California from the numbers, and Trump won the popular vote. Marxists should be highly concerned, to be honest. How is it that Commiefornia went from 61.73% Clinton, 31.62% Trump, to 58.5% Kamala 38.3% Trump?

Even the most Marxist State in the nation is seeing their progressive candidates lose ground to the America First movement. Isn't that weird?


Kamala, I believe, was the first "nominee" since 1930 to not flip a single district.

This post was edited by El1te on Dec 3 2024 11:44pm
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