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Jan 17 2024 06:06pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 17 2024 04:33pm)
I neither claimed to be against Trump going after the administrative state, nor did I deny that the contemporary Democratic party has grown a strong authoritarian and collectivist streak. ;)

Still: there is an important distinction between a democratically president cutting down non-essential parts of the executive which serve at his discretion, and the president going after other democratic institutions which are coequal to the presidency, rather than subordinate. It is a very reasonable assumption that Trump will not make this distinction and thus check one typical box of fascism, even if he does't meet a lot of the other criteria. Hence, likening Trump to historic fascists is not as far-fetched as you made it out to be. I ultimately disagree with the notion, but it's not coming out of thin air.


I didn't say that you did. My point is that Stalinist Russia was a dictatorship, and yet no one would think to call the USSR fascist. WW2 Japan is generally not considered fascist, and it was an expansionist, militarist state. Calling Trump fascist is to pervert what fascism is, it's just as absurd as calling Biden a communist.
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Jan 17 2024 06:28pm
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I didn't say that you did. My point is that Stalinist Russia was a dictatorship, and yet no one would think to call the USSR fascist. WW2 Japan is generally not considered fascist, and it was an expansionist, militarist state. Calling Trump fascist is to pervert what fascism is, it's just as absurd as calling Biden a communist.


idk, this quote is pretty fucking fascist to me


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We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections.


especially so when you consider that HE and his TEAM literally tried to steal and cheat a democratic election

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Jan 17 2024 07:34pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Jan 17 2024 04:28pm)
idk, this quote is pretty fucking fascist to me




especially so when you consider that HE and his TEAM literally tried to steal and cheat a democratic election


Joe Biden brags about having “the most extensive and inclusive VOTER FRAUD organization” in history.
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Jan 20 2024 05:58am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 16 2024 08:12am)
Trump still clearly worse, but is old is a drastic downplaying of it. i dont think biden has the mental capacity left to be an executive. he's a figurehead.

that in itself is another, albeit far less serious, attack on democracy. we're not electing a president, we're electing a figurehead while his unelected cabal of handlers act as the actual president. its not unprecedented of course, Reagan shouldn't have been re-elected either.


Vouch. Here's Biden confusing Nancy Pelosi with Nikki Haley:

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1748534604401614968

For real though, I think Biden comes across as older and more frail than Trump, but as far as mental capacity and attachment to reality, Biden is the clear favorite. Biden is older, but Trump is truly crazy. He's far more detached from reality than Biden.

And I think the whole "Biden is a figurehead" thing is mostly meritless. In some sense every president is a figurehead... do you think Trump was steeped in policy nuance? The president sets the direction of change, his people mostly handle the specifics. I haven't seen a bunch of reporting that Biden is checked out as president, he's just clearly an old man.
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Jan 20 2024 02:03pm
Quote (IceMage @ 20 Jan 2024 12:58)
Vouch. Here's Biden confusing Nancy Pelosi with Nikki Haley:

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1748534604401614968

For real though, I think Biden comes across as older and more frail than Trump, but as far as mental capacity and attachment to reality, Biden is the clear favorite. Biden is older, but Trump is truly crazy. He's far more detached from reality than Biden.

And I think the whole "Biden is a figurehead" thing is mostly meritless. In some sense every president is a figurehead... do you think Trump was steeped in policy nuance? The president sets the direction of change, his people mostly handle the specifics. I haven't seen a bunch of reporting that Biden is checked out as president, he's just clearly an old man.

Trump's leadership on the general direction of the country was far stronger than Biden's. Trump - yes, Trump himself! - set the agenda all the damn time, his handlers were constantly on their toes during his presidency and often times struggled to keep up with him. Often times, Trump charged ahead with an idea in public and his staff only developed a platform/agenda/policy after the fact.

Biden's leadership comes across as far weaker. Everytime he engages in agenda-setting, he just rattles off the usual talking points of the DNC, only pushes for policies and ideas which his handlers and party officials had already espoused for quite some time.
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Jan 22 2024 09:33am

Many people say that Biden's re election is under fire due to his unwavering support for Israel.
I don't think that is the problem. The problem is he is 6 years older than Israel.
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Jan 22 2024 10:43am
Fast forward to around 50 second mark where Dimon starts talking on Democrats




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Jan 22 2024 12:05pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 22 Jan 2024 17:43)
Fast forward to around 50 second mark where Dimon starts talking on Democrats


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gnQJZW0CyQ


He's totally right, but Democrats already escaped their much-deserved reckoning once before, in 2020, because Trump kept shooting himself in the foot. Never underestimate his ability to make a mess out of a situation which should be a layup.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 22 2024 01:05pm)
He's totally right, but Democrats already escaped their much-deserved reckoning once before, in 2020, because Trump kept shooting himself in the foot. Never underestimate his ability to make a mess out of a situation which should be a layup.


Or the collective forces that were determined to sling every available piece of shit under the sun at him. Don't forget 2020 was marred with years of wall to wall coverage on Russiagate and how no matter what Trump did, he did wrong in regards to Covid. Those two things alone were enough for him to lose.
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Jan 22 2024 12:35pm
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Or the collective forces that were determined to sling every available piece of shit under the sun at him. Don't forget 2020 was marred with years of wall to wall coverage on Russiagate and how no matter what Trump did, he did wrong in regards to Covid. Those two things alone were enough for him to lose.


when it first started trump was the only one doing anything about 'covid and the leftie frauds mocked and called him racist for it.
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