Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 26 2023 12:39am)

More like: "is not up to the task, as evidenced by him turning everything he touches to shit:

• did not quickly get covid under control like he had promised on the campaign trail
  
• horribly botched the Afghanistan withdrawal
  
• underestimated and mismanaged inflation
  
• oversaw the outbreak of two major wars
  
• was unable to prevent large swaths of ordinary Americans form experiencing the worst decline in purchasing power in nearly a generation
  
• a complete (and deliberate) loss of control at the Southern border, with his administration actively undermining state governments which tried to take things into their own hand
  
• blatantly lied when he portrayed himself as "the great uniter" and "the one to bring the temperature down" on the campaign trail; has used divisive rhetoric in virtually all major speeches, has used the DoJ to go after his political opponents
  
• bungled all progress Trump had made in the Middle East, oversaw a dramatic decline of American clout in the Muslim world and with the BRICS states"

Biden's ineptitude might be caused, at least partly, by his age - but make no mistake, it's the egregious ineptitude and wrong priorities which cause the political right to loathe him and his presidency. Heck, no other president since approval ratings started being recorded a century ago has had worse approval ratings 3 years into his presidency than Biden; his polls are even worse than Trump's (SAD!)

Quote (Pyrotechx @ Jan 12 2024 11:10pm)

don't make me post the gif of Trump kissing the 6 year old and telling him he'd be dating her in 8 years (not even 18)

Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 23 2023 12:04am)

Shows how extreme the curve has become for Republicans.

Most substantial criticism of Biden: Is old

Most substantial critism of Trump: Literally trying to overthrow democracy

Centrists: These are basically the same thing

Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 22 2023 06:04pm)

Shows how extreme the curve has become for Republicans.

Most substantial criticism of Biden: Is old

Most substantial critism of Trump: Literally trying to overthrow democracy

Centrists: These are basically the same thing

Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 16 2024 10:12am)

Trump still clearly worse, but is old is a drastic downplaying of it. i dont think biden has the mental capacity left to be an executive. he's a figurehead.

that in itself is another, albeit far less serious, attack on democracy. we're not electing a president, we're electing a figurehead while his unelected cabal of handlers act as the actual president. its not unprecedented of course, Reagan shouldn't have been re-elected either.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 16 2024 12:43pm)

Biden was good for one term. He wasn't that bad at the start, and it was definitely overplayed.

But man he's gone down hill fast. It sucks how the DNC overplayed its hand here. They wanted a sure-thing in Biden during 2020 but then didn't do the leg work to replace him 4 years later, so we're fucked.

I think he can still do competent administration, since that's less about talking fast and he's been doing it for 30 years, but the president's only job isn't to administrate.

Trump is the opposite. He holds together in public because he's based more of his life on looking good and speaking in public, but he's in a similar boat. Barely keeps coherent sentences, and not just the usual Trumpisms like before where there was at least a kind of thread you could follow.


Overall this election is dismal, but Trump is literally promising to be a dictator and wants to undermine the entire administrative state with Project 2025.... so the choice is pretty clear IMO. Just hope more people see it.

Quote (Thor123422 @ 16 Jan 2024 19:43)

Biden was good for one term. He wasn't that bad at the start, and it was definitely overplayed.

But man he's gone down hill fast. It sucks how the DNC overplayed its hand here. They wanted a sure-thing in Biden during 2020 but then didn't do the leg work to replace him 4 years later, so we're fucked.

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Trump is [...] in a similar boat. Barely keeps coherent sentences, and not just the usual Trumpisms like before where there was at least a kind of thread you could follow.

Quote (thesnipa @ 16 Jan 2024 20:01)

the worst failure of the DNC will be if Biden dies in office, it will fuel deepstate narratives for a decade. they need to hope he limps across the finish line, sad really.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 17 2024 12:28am)

They were right to want a sure-thing in 2020, considering that Trump came within 0.63% of winning reelection - in a year in which all hell broke loose and absolutely everything went wrong for him.

The plan, imho, was very clearly for Biden's VP to be built up as the heir-apparent. But since their party is obsessed with identity politics and insisted on balancing the ticket with a women of color, they were stuck with a very small pool of candidates. Kamala was pretty much the only woman of color with the necessary stature and experience, but she's just god-awful in every respect. Ran an atrocious campaign back in 2019/20, unlikable, inept on policy, a massive hypocrite, excessively corporate-friendly, her track record on drugs and incarcerations, the list goes on and on.

Imho, the DNC totally underestimated just how bad a politician she is and that they really can't risk running her as the standard bearer and face of the party. But since she's the sitting VP and ticks all the identity boxes, it's also politically unfeasible to have Biden step down and run with someone like Newsom or Whitmer, so they're stuck with Biden for this cycle although he clearly doesn't have it anymore.




Agreed. I've been mentioning Trump's visible mental decline even during his last year in office, and it's only gotten worse since then. He also doesn't have it anymore, he's far too old too. But his baked-in advantages in the primary were so huge that only a supremely talented candidate could have wrested the nomination from him this year, not middling talent like DeSantis or Haley. So the GOP is also stuck with their geriatric candidate who's unsuited for office. :rolleyes:






But it would also harm public trust and belief in democracy if Biden barely limps across the finish line in 2024, only to step down shortly after being sworn in. The country would be stuck for 3+ years with a president who has a very weak mandate/legitimization.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 17 2024 02:28am)

They were right to want a sure-thing in 2020, considering that Trump came within 0.63% of winning reelection - in a year in which all hell broke loose and absolutely everything went wrong for him.

The plan, imho, was very clearly for Biden's VP to be built up as the heir-apparent. But since their party is obsessed with identity politics and insisted on balancing the ticket with a women of color, they were stuck with a very small pool of candidates. Kamala was pretty much the only woman of color with the necessary stature and experience, but she's just god-awful in every respect. Ran an atrocious campaign back in 2019/20, unlikable, inept on policy, a massive hypocrite, excessively corporate-friendly, her track record on drugs and incarcerations, the list goes on and on.

Imho, the DNC totally underestimated just how bad a politician she is and that they really can't risk running her as the standard bearer and face of the party. But since she's the sitting VP and ticks all the identity boxes, it's also politically unfeasible to have Biden step down and run with someone like Newsom or Whitmer, so they're stuck with Biden for this cycle although he clearly doesn't have it anymore.




Agreed. I've been mentioning Trump's visible mental decline even during his last year in office, and it's only gotten worse since then. He also doesn't have it anymore, he's far too old too. But his baked-in advantages in the primary were so huge that only a supremely talented candidate could have wrested the nomination from him this year, not middling talent like DeSantis or Haley. So the GOP is also stuck with their geriatric candidate who's unsuited for office. :rolleyes:






But it would also harm public trust and belief in democracy if Biden barely limps across the finish line in 2024, only to step down shortly after being sworn in. The country would be stuck for 3+ years with a president who has a very weak mandate/legitimization.