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Apr 3 2024 03:55pm
hamas which has the overwhelming support of palestinians started a war against israel

now the opponent is hitting back, thats the price for this war

deal with it
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Apr 3 2024 04:10pm
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Things are slowly changing, even among the average american: majority now disapprove this "war" and giving weapons to Israel
And if americans are like 52-55% (this amount increase each month) then you can add 10-15% for Europeans.

With the incoming deaths Israel should be condemned for genocide or something like this... Israel can't go back and resurrect people, it's one way.

https://news-un-org.translate.goog/fr/story/2024/03/1144356?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Gaza: “reasonable grounds” to believe that Israel committed “acts of genocide”, according to a UN expert


Yea well that's what Biden's administration has done. If Trump did one thing right it was remove us from foreign wars. A lot of people say Trump is an "Israeli agent" and would've supported what the IDF is doing. I don't think so.

That being said the "karmic retribution" of what those Hamas terrorist did on 10/7 has not been "paid in enough blood yet" according to Israel.

The US spent decades in the ME while getting the same backlash and no one did a fucking thing. Is this because no one would challenge the US military. Probably part of the reason. But Israel has been at war with Hamas for less then a year(I understand the conflict goes back decades) but Israel feels like the US felt after 9/11. The wounds are still open and bombing their Palestinian neighbor feels right even though it's morally wrong. Barbarism leads to more barbarism.
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Apr 3 2024 05:03pm
This Means Much Larger Conflict!
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Yea well that's what Biden's administration has done. If Trump did one thing right it was remove us from foreign wars. A lot of people say Trump is an "Israeli agent" and would've supported what the IDF is doing. I don't think so.

That being said the "karmic retribution" of what those Hamas terrorist did on 10/7 has not been "paid in enough blood yet" according to Israel.

The US spent decades in the ME while getting the same backlash and no one did a fucking thing. Is this because no one would challenge the US military. Probably part of the reason. But Israel has been at war with Hamas for less then a year(I understand the conflict goes back decades) but Israel feels like the US felt after 9/11. The wounds are still open and bombing their Palestinian neighbor feels right even though it's morally wrong. Barbarism leads to more barbarism.


Trump increased defense budget during his previous president and put ambassy in the wrong hole...
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Trump increased defense budget during his previous president and put ambassy in the wrong hole...


Unfortunately no sitting POTUS since JFK has questioned the Military Industrial Complex and the three letter organizations. CIA/FBI/NSA/DIA. You can’t change the status quo. You can’t give less to our military when our military is the reason our country lives in total privilege. Part of the reason we went to the ME was to steal oil plain and simple. Our military burns more fossil fuels than the next 10 combined. We knew we had massive oil reserves in Alaska and on the Gulf Coast. We strategically drained Middle Eastern oil reserves so that when shit hits the fan we will be able to tap our own geography and not need any “oil imports”. This goes hand in hand with the US petroleum dollar which has been the world’s reserve currency for decades and up until a few years ago all Oil was being traded in US dollars. Now countries are “getting off of it” but guess what. A little too late in my opinion.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68714128 - Gaza aid convoy strike: What we know (England)
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-04-02/ty-article/.premium/idf-bombed-wck-aid-convoy-3-times-targeting-armed-hamas-member-who-wasnt-there/0000018e-9e75-d764-adff-9eff29360000 - same story, (Israel)
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/2/al-jazeera-sanad-probe-finds-israeli-forces-deliberately-hit-wck-convoy - same story, Al Jazeera

basically it looks like Israel wanted to kill a Hamas soldier, who was in some way connected to this aid convoy. These appear to have been targeted strikes, and we will get the same people saying the same thing, that in war people die.



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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68714128 - Gaza aid convoy strike: What we know (England)
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-04-02/ty-article/.premium/idf-bombed-wck-aid-convoy-3-times-targeting-armed-hamas-member-who-wasnt-there/0000018e-9e75-d764-adff-9eff29360000 - same story, (Israel)
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/2/al-jazeera-sanad-probe-finds-israeli-forces-deliberately-hit-wck-convoy - same story, Al Jazeera

basically it looks like Israel wanted to kill a Hamas soldier, who was in some way connected to this aid convoy. These appear to have been targeted strikes, and we will get the same people saying the same thing, that in war people die.


Imho not really a "war" but the result of Israel state sponsored self-terrorism.

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Unfortunately no sitting POTUS since JFK has questioned the Military Industrial Complex and the three letter organizations. CIA/FBI/NSA/DIA. You can’t change the status quo. You can’t give less to our military when our military is the reason our country lives in total privilege. Part of the reason we went to the ME was to steal oil plain and simple. Our military burns more fossil fuels than the next 10 combined. We knew we had massive oil reserves in Alaska and on the Gulf Coast. We strategically drained Middle Eastern oil reserves so that when shit hits the fan we will be able to tap our own geography and not need any “oil imports”. This goes hand in hand with the US petroleum dollar which has been the world’s reserve currency for decades and up until a few years ago all Oil was being traded in US dollars. Now countries are “getting off of it” but guess what. A little too late in my opinion.


you wrote "Yea well that's what Biden's administration has done. If Trump did one thing right it was remove us from foreign wars." So nope, with Trump it would simply be even worse.
The guy absolutely don't care about americans lol

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Imho not really a "war" but the result of Israel state sponsored self-terrorism.



you wrote "Yea well that's what Biden's administration has done. If Trump did one thing right it was remove us from foreign wars." So nope, with Trump it would simply be even worse.
The guy absolutely don't care about americans lol


How would Trump have made it worse? The US intelligence and Israeli intelligence work in tandem(has little to do with the sitting President and more to do with the handlers behind the scene). They are major allies and both in the top five for military application technology. Just because Trump went to the "wailing wall" and put on a "kippah" doesn't mean he wants to genocide Palestinians. It was optics and nothing more. Sort of like Obama being a "Christian" to gain that voter base(one of it not the biggest voting block in the US). I will admit though that every President backs Israel. That's because Israel is a proxy of the United States and having a good relationship with them allows them to have better access to the ME. To make a metaphor Israel is the two towers on 9/11. If they go down WE come in. We laid waste to a lot of the ME and parts of northern Africa and if Israel wants to instigate a wider war with the ME they will be the ones getting hit by long range missiles, they'll be the ones to nuke Tehran and get nuked back in the process. America benefits if Israel continues it's military campaign. America also benefits if a cease-fire or peace agreement is reached.

I don't even like Trump or Biden but from their own words Trump has always said, "Bring our troops home". Why are we in foreign wars letting our youth die when the countries we go and defend NEVER pay us back for doing the heavy lifting. Biden is so incompetent and just "not mentally there" that the puppet masters get Biden to do whatever they want. Trump had a good relationship with Putin and Putin doesn't even talk to Biden(is that not even more dangerous?). Biden is a democrat war hawk. Normally it's Republican war hawks cheering on any military conflict but now we see a lot more of both sides "supporting never ending wars" because they get RICH by just saying "yay" in the chambers of congress.

This conflict is above the US sitting presidents. As I've said many times this is the worlds elite using Israel to start WW3. The Rothschilds own the US Federal Reserve and therefore control the US military and they installed "Israel" after WW2 just like in "Ukraine". They use emotional, ethnic, religious, and national divide amongst neighboring nations to start wars wherever the fuck they want. People need to understand this. The bankers of have funded both sides of every conflict. Just ask yourself how Germany and the Third Reich were able to amass the "force" they did? Because they had financial support from the wealthiest entity on Earth.
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Apr 4 2024 08:56am
Quote (ferdia @ Apr 4 2024 11:51am)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68714128 - Gaza aid convoy strike: What we know (England)
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-04-02/ty-article/.premium/idf-bombed-wck-aid-convoy-3-times-targeting-armed-hamas-member-who-wasnt-there/0000018e-9e75-d764-adff-9eff29360000 - same story, (Israel)
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/2/al-jazeera-sanad-probe-finds-israeli-forces-deliberately-hit-wck-convoy - same story, Al Jazeera

basically it looks like Israel wanted to kill a Hamas soldier, who was in some way connected to this aid convoy. These appear to have been targeted strikes, and we will get the same people saying the same thing, that in war people die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XshUk5ADGZ0


Israel armed forces fucked up. Badly.

This could be a turning point honestly. The sooner Netanyahu goes the better.
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Israel armed forces fucked up. Badly.

This could be a turning point honestly. The sooner Netanyahu goes the better.


I find it frankly insane, that people are crying about 7 aid workers killed in the face of 32,000 dead. There is extensive history of Israel killing civilians, aid workers etc. They are even bombing other countries at the moment, and yet the media is horrified about 7 aid workers killed. warped logic. Israel has said it does not bomb indiscriminately. That means there was purpose and intent for those it has killed to date. These are guided strikes. for a car they need precision, for Gaza, a few thousand 2000lbs bombs works just as well, the target (gaza) is small but even unguided bombs will hit it.



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/03/30/israel-2000lb-bombs-us-rafah-un-security-council-resolution/ <--- how this does not horrify anyone is beyond me. probably conditioned by the 100's of 2000lbs bombs already dropped - https://edition.cnn.com/gaza-israel-big-bombs/index.html

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