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Mar 16 2016 08:13am
Also @Snipe the decision to imprison the Japanese was never based on race
but by country in which their people came from so how is that racist? It is not racist you are silly!

B)

Keep calling everyone who disagrees with your political views racist, that won't win any elections though.
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Quote (GamingOn @ 16 Mar 2016 14:13)
Also @Snipe the decision to imprison the Japanese was never based on race
but by country in which their people came from so how is that racist? It is not racist you are silly!

B)

Keep calling everyone who disagrees with your political views racist, that won't win any elections though.


Omfg... facepalm...

I think you're confusing ethnicity with race. The Japanese are a race of people.

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Omfg... facepalm...

I think you're confusing ethnicity with race.


omg... no actual content to add to the discussion another insult.
hahahah. Keep up the one word insults bro, even if I did mistake
the two it doesn't make you any more right or Hillary Clinton any
more electable.

Coming from someone who labels them self to the progressive left
I just can't see why you would try to insult me or to flame me because
I don't agree with the views you share. Wait...That is what the left does.

#rekt

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Quote (GamingOn @ Mar 16 2016 08:15am)
omg... no actual content to add to the discussion another insult.
hahahah. Keep up the one word insults bro, even if I did mistake
the two it doesn't make you any more right
or Hillary Clinton any
more electable.

Coming from someone who labels them self to the progressive left
I just can't see why you would try to insult me or to flame me because
I don't agree with the views you share. Wait...That is what the left does.

#rekt


I don't think you understand the dynamics of human conversation.
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I don't think you understand the dynamics of human conversation.


This is my last response to you as you simply add nothing to the conversation.
You can think whatever you want and you can insult me / support the democrats all you want.
The democrats are moving towards voting Trump more then any other republican candidate
in the history of America. So long story short you insult me it doesn't change me and it won't
change the election either.

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Mar 16 2016 08:38am
trump 2016
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Quote (GamingOn @ Mar 16 2016 08:35am)
This is my last response to you as you simply add nothing to the conversation.
You can think whatever you want and you can insult me / support the democrats all you want.
The democrats are moving towards voting Trump more then any other republican candidate
in the history of America. So long story short you insult me it doesn't change me and it won't
change the election either.


I have brought plenty to the conversation, granted the posts were laden with savage insults on your intelligence so perhaps you just blacked them out entirely.

I tried to confront you on your view of Japanese internment camps and you deflected, first by calling it "politically correct dumbness" or whatever other shitdick term you chose, then by trying to move it to a semantics argument with the race/ethnicity bullshit. Even offering unverifiable "proof" in your friends of color out of the blue...

If you want to have a conversation completely devoid of insults and only on substance I'm game, but my guess is you'd need a history lesson on the Japanese internment to even participate. The simple fact that you blindly support it suggests you don't even know the timeline, especially because you claim to have no ill will towards the Japanese who were treated both cruelly and unusually as defined legally in those camps. If a Japanese internment camp was transported through time to modern day and held US prisoners it would be a multi billion dollar class action lawsuit, it was untenable in its execution and unconstitutional to its very core.

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I have brought plenty to the conversation, granted the posts were laden with savage insults on your intelligence so perhaps you just blacked them out entirely.

I tried to confront you on your view of Japanese internment camps and you deflected, first by calling it "politically correct dumbness" or whatever other shitdick term you chose, then by trying to move it to a semantics argument with the race/ethnicity bullshit. Even offering unverifiable "proof" in your friends of color out of the blue...

If you want to have a conversation completely devoid of insults and only on substance I'm game, but my guess is you'd need a history lesson on the Japanese internment to even participate. The simple fact that you blindly support it suggests you don't even know the timeline, especially because you claim to have no ill will towards the Japanese who were treated both cruelly and unusually as defined legally in those camps. If a Japanese internment camp was transported through time to modern day and help US prisoners it would be a multi billion dollar class action lawsuit, it was untenable in its execution and unconstitutional to its very core.


You believe it is cruel to lock up a countries people because the country is at odds and or attacking the United States.
I believe it is a good move to hold the countries people aside until things calm down so the U.S. doesn't get attacked
from within itself.

Everyone has their own opinion and my opinion does not make me a racist, and the comment on my friends not being white
came from you insinuating that I am a racist which in fact I am not. So that being said you are lying about the out of the blue
statement and again insulting me for some reason I have yet to grasp. Probably because you think it makes you smart and me dumb
or you better then me in some way because I don't support one of your democrat contenders.

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You believe it is cruel to lock up a countries people because the country is at odds and or attacking the United States.
I believe it is a good move to hold the countries people aside until things calm down so the U.S. doesn't get attacked
from within itself.

Everyone has their own opinion and my opinion does not make me a racist, and the comment on my friends not being white
came from you insinuating that I am a racist which in fact I am not. So that being said you are lying about the out of the blue
statement and again insulting me for some reason I have yet to grasp. Probably because you think it makes you smart and me dumb
or you better then me in some way because I don't support one of your democrat contenders.


your ignorance to the timeline and actual conditions of japanese internment camps is shining through here. It is not cruel and unusual to hold people, the conditions of the camps themselves were cruel and unusual.

Perhaps you should read up on the wiki for a history lesson:

specifically portions such as this:

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According to a 1943 War Relocation Authority report, internees were housed in "tar paper-covered barracks of simple frame construction without plumbing or cooking facilities of any kind." Many camps were built quickly by civilian contractors during the summer of 1942 based on designs for military barracks, making the buildings poorly equipped for cramped family living.[citation needed] Throughout many camps, twenty-five people were forced to live in space built to contain four, leaving no room for privacy.[93]


And perhaps you need a bit of a refresher on the United States Constitution:

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4th Prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures and sets out requirements for search warrants based on probable cause as determined by a neutral judge or magistrate.


Interred Japanese received no due process, a violation of the 4th ammendment.

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6th Protects the right to a fair and speedy public trial by jury, including the rights to be notified of the accusations, to confront the accuser, to obtain witnesses and to retain counsel.


6th ammd. violation, imprisonment without a trial or representation.

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8th Prohibits excessive fines and excessive bail, as well as cruel and unusual punishment.


Conditions inside the camps themselves were an 8th ammd. violation

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13th Abolishes slavery, and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime.


Potential 13th ammd. violation for those forced to do labor in camps without a trial for a crime.

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14th Defines citizenship, contains the Privileges or Immunities Clause, the Due Process Clause, the Equal Protection Clause, and deals with post-Civil War issues.


Perhaps most notably a 14th ammd. violation and an affront to the equal protection clause, defined:

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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 16 2016 08:59am)
your ignorance to the timeline and actual conditions of japanese internment camps is shining through here. It is not cruel and unusual to hold people, the conditions of the camps themselves were cruel and unusual.

Perhaps you should read up on the wiki for a history lesson:

specifically portions such as this:



And perhaps you need a bit of a refresher on the United States Constitution:



Interred Japanese received no due process, a violation of the 4th ammendment.

The Japanese were charged with no crime and not put into a prison they were put into camps.


6th ammd. violation, imprisonment without a trial or representation.

Again the Japanese were not charged with any crimes so they do not need a trail.


Conditions inside the camps themselves were an 8th ammd. violation

There was no slavery as there was no master as well as none were bought or sold but you can keep making this a slavery issue.


Potential 13th ammd. violation for those forced to do labor in camps without a trial for a crime.

Forced to work to pay for their own upkeep doesn't seem like a huge issue.

Perhaps most notably a 14th ammd. violation and an affront to the equal protection clause, defined:

They were not convicted of a crime they were detained by law enforcement which law enforcement is allowed to do in most cases for a certain
period of time as well as apparently longer as they did it to the Japanese.






Well it is not like we have ever done that before right?

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