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Jul 14 2014 10:34pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 14 2014 08:52pm)
Republicans give a lot of aid to lower classes in various forms. They just don't want someone else who isn't very accountable doing it for them (the government). The media will twist it however it will though


Unfortunately if these unaccountable people weren't dolling out the aid you wouldn't see it going very far beyond their church group and those people their church group deems worthy.

You don't have to listen to much Republican talk radio to know that Republicans are the less tolerant of the two parties.

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Jul 14 2014 10:39pm
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...Republicans give a lot of aid to lower classes in various forms. ...


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Jul 14 2014 11:29pm
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That is an easy misconception. It sounds counterintuitive but people truly are not created equal.

Diversity is a pattern of nature and power/economic diversity happens as some individuals are naturally more adept at producing what is useful to and chosen by others.

An authoritarian third party is needed to alter the natural bell-curve's equilibrium.



Republicans give a lot of aid to lower classes in various forms. They just don't want someone else who isn't very accountable doing it for them (the government). The media will twist it however it will though


Liberals are so functionally retarded. They insist upon shoving Evolution in Religious persons faces and yet do all they can to combat natural-selection in our own species & then themselves DENY IT EXIST but only for humans. :rolleyes:
If you want equality quit screwing with nature's natural bell-curve's equilibrium IMO. These social problems could fix themselves far faster if liberals would quit compounding these problems and simply allow for the self correction to take place.
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Jul 15 2014 01:35am
Quote (JadeSky @ Jul 15 2014 12:34am)
Unfortunately if these unaccountable people weren't dolling out the aid you wouldn't see it going very far beyond their church group and those people their church group deems worthy.

You don't have to listen to much Republican talk radio to know that Republicans are the less tolerant of the two parties.


Many of them are intolerant, no doubt, especially in the less progressive parts of the country. Why not blame individuals and not the whole party?

Talking about conservative ideas at most public universities would spur an equally fanatic opposition.

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I'm not sure what you're getting at.

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Liberals are so functionally retarded. They insist upon shoving Evolution in Religious persons faces and yet do all they can to combat natural-selection in our own species & then themselves DENY IT EXIST but only for humans.  :rolleyes:
If you want equality quit screwing with nature's natural bell-curve's equilibrium IMO. These social problems could fix themselves far faster if liberals would quit compounding these problems and simply allow for the self correction to take place.


Tbh back 5 years ago I had mostly liberal ideas. Ideas like these aren't immediately apparent and to some they may never be.

What I've described is only a framework that describes how interactions manifest results. When you include government policy and its effects on society as well, it becomes a bit more complicated than just a bell curve. Also, in society we're not trying to breed a super-race, were trying to maximize lasting happiness. Too much deregulation would definitely cause more suffering than good, especially since our current convoluted regulations have created a net of special interests that have, in turn, bred a populace that is literally reliant on their two-faced f***ery.

I also believe reaching out to the disadvantaged is something that is desperately necessary, but like you said it must be done in a way that doesn't tamper with self correction. We can leave them chances to improve their situation but they have to do it on their own volition. Some people don't want to be helped, and won't regardless of how much you try.
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Jul 15 2014 10:21am
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This doesn't deserve it's own thread and I don't have a picture for it, but does PaRD think it's ethical to vote in your own self interest when you believe it is against the interest of the whole?
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Jul 15 2014 11:23am
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Tbh back 5 years ago I had mostly liberal ideas. Ideas like these aren't immediately apparent and to some they may never be.

What I've described is only a framework that describes how interactions manifest results. When you include government policy and its effects on society as well, it becomes a bit more complicated than just a bell curve. Also, in society we're not trying to breed a super-race, were trying to maximize lasting happiness. Too much deregulation would definitely cause more suffering than good, especially since our current convoluted regulations have created a net of special interests that have, in turn, bred a populace that is literally reliant on their two-faced f***ery.

I also believe reaching out to the disadvantaged is something that is desperately necessary, but like you said it must be done in a way that doesn't tamper with self correction. We can leave them chances to improve their situation but they have to do it on their own volition. Some people don't want to be helped, and won't regardless of how much you try.


Eugenics is happening. But, not for a super-race. Quite the contrary.
Liberals are simply trying strip away what is exceptional from humanity in so doing; destroy western civilization
and the perception of race all-together to create a mundane ordinary race without physical distinction between individuals.
Rather than instilling *self-discipline in as many as possible for an equality which allows for diversity.
*Religion is the most useful tool for doing this so far humanity has come up with.

They instead seek to tear out what makes humanity great. Our intellect, physical strength, good looks, wealth creating potential. It's true, many of these traits are more present in some races more so than others. (often those are races with a far reaching history of *self-discipline) This however, is both genetic and cultural.
So there is potential for less preforming races to catch up. But..
Society should be focusing more of it's resources to excelling people capable of advancing themselves (while providing those resources equally to everyone) and spend less resources on people with stunted capability. At lest our support for those persons should not come at the expense of other peoples advancement & development. (e.g.) affirmative-action.
Maximize lasting happiness is more of a spiritual-goal/mental-task rather than a core function for society to undertake. Tying our happiness to the physical leads to many self destructive behaviors namely: greed, jealousy, envy, selfishness, etc.. etc.. This does not make for a good social structure. And only leads to further unhappiness.
Many different religions teach this moral lesson and it's one of the things which they are correct on.

We should deregulate at least to a point which society only provides for the minimal needs of our people. Any more than that should only come from earnings and utilizing the opportunities society provides to us. This creates incentives to make use of the opportunities which are provided to us. And it is realistic for a society to provide equal opportunities.
But it's delusional to believe those same opportunities can be socially orchestrated to yield equal results. Especially when there is unequal effort put into these opportunities by persons. Not even social aid for "needs" should be given to squanders. Let them die. They should be treated like criminals. Which is also a problem as our criminal-cast lives far to comfortably in our prisons. Sucking up much of this socialism our society so generously provides equally to all. Even criminals.
We need to deregulate so these people who ride the system are cast off. They are a drag on everyone else including other members of their own races,
and are the cause of continued inequality & racism.

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These crack me up every time :rofl:
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