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Quote (gnarjay @ Apr 1 2024 09:57pm)
https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/uyghur-activists-protest-in-us-urge-un-to-act-on-genocide-by-china-122053000465_1.html

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/demonstrators-protest-us-bombing-yemen-outside-white-house

maybe youre being selective about which protests youre paying attention to? the media also isnt/wasnt paying them much attention either for what its worth

I see youre resorting to the lazy "its about jew hatred" excuse. I guess youll never learn eh


One protest 2 years ago?
There's a protest against Israel every weekend in UK cities.

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What is Israel's end-game in this?


Find out why oct7th was called al aqsa flood. I'm not saying it was justified but there was a reason for it ( that literally no one here knows about)

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I'm wondering about the real-world details of Israel's end-game. Undoubtedly, there is a desire to exist, but what that means and what it takes to get there are where my curiosities lie.


Yeah. I don't think even they know and that's the problem. Terrible leadership in Netanyahu doesn't help.

But one thing is certain they don't want to live with Hamas proliferating in tunnels under their border.

What nation of people would accept living with that?
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Apr 1 2024 05:52pm)
What is Israel's end-game in this?

Reclaiming the valuable coastline, pushing as many Palestinians into neighboring countries as possible, destroying any infrastructure for those remaining while limiting any outside aid to create further destabilization and a reliance on underground networks which can then be targeted as terrorists cells
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Quote (zorzin @ Apr 1 2024 02:00pm)
Find out why oct7th was called al aqsa flood. I'm not saying it was justified but there was a reason for it ( that literally no one here knows about)

https://i.postimg.cc/6q7F3gD2/1711687702466265.jpg


What do you think the reason is/was?
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Yeah. I don't think even they know and that's the problem. Terrible leadership in Netanyahu doesn't help.

But one thing is certain they don't want to live with Hamas proliferating in tunnels under their border.

What nation of people would accept living with that?


I hear you when you say "What nation of people would accept living with that (referring to the Hamas tunnels from an Israeli perspective)?"; however, could that not be also said about the Palestinians from The Nakba onward?

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Reclaiming the valuable coastline, pushing as many Palestinians into neighboring countries as possible, destroying any infrastructure for those remaining while limiting any outside aid to create further destabilization and a reliance on underground networks which can then be targeted as terrorists cells


And what expectations do we have then for the Palestinians who will, and are, on the receiving end of this end-game?
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What is Israel's end-game in this?


the expulsion of people from Gaza, to Egypt or elsewhere, it what it looks like to me. This does not sound credible, as we are talking of a population of 2M, but an element of expulsion / exodus is expected. presumably they will do to gaza what they are doing to the westbank. military rule.

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Quote (Handcuffs @ Apr 1 2024 10:09pm)
I hear you when you say "What nation of people would accept living with that (referring to the Hamas tunnels from an Israeli perspective)?"; however, could that not be also said about the Palestinians from The Nakba onward?



And what expectations do we have then for the Palestinians who will, and are, on the receiving end of this end-game?


Well being pedantic, no. Palestine is not a nation.
Being more literal is it not fair to say many Palestinians have not accepted living peacefully? Hence Hamas among other groups.

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Quote (ferdia @ Apr 1 2024 11:09pm)
the expulsion of people from Gaza, to Egypt or elsewhere, it what it looks like to me. This does not sound credible, as we are talking of a population of 2M, but an element of expulsion / exodus is expected. presumably they will do to gaza what they are doing to the westbank. military rule.


i mean its already lining up that way

the americans already established a makeshift harbor, its only a matter of time until there is a call to "evacuate" palestinians

and the EU is stupid to take in that trash despite them getting rejected by their own "brothers"
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Apr 1 2024 02:21pm)
Well being pedantic, no. Palestine is not a nation.
Being more literal is it not fair to say many Palestinians have not accepted living peacefully. Hence Hamas among other groups.


I don't see how it's pedantic at all; I think it's simply empathy.

If you can have empathy for Israel about tunnels being built, then I would hope it easy to understand the same underlying principle is going to be true for the Palestinians by virtue of our shared humanity.

Quote (ferdia @ Apr 1 2024 02:09pm)
the expulsion of people from Gaza, to Egypt or elsewhere, it what it looks like to me. This does not sound credible, as we are talking of a population of 2M, but an element of expulsion / exodus is expected. presumably they will do to gaza what they are doing to the westbank. military rule.


And if that is the case, I wonder what they expect the Palestinians to do in response?
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