https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Seems like his approval rating started tanking from the very beginning (likely from the "Muslim Ban")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13769

At the end of the day, Trump wasn't going to succeed because he didn't care to learn nor delegate. The guy literally had a colonoscopy without anesthesia because he didn't want to give Pence temporary power



You could absolutely argue that. The problem is that Trump fired him for the wrong reasons and the intent was corrupt IMO.

I believe that there should be a chain of command within the executive agencies and the President should let his cabinet deal with internal affairs unless they are pretty grave and require active involvement. Trump doesn't strike me as the person who is capable of being actively involved.

If I had it my way, the IG office of each agency would work much more closely with Congress. Outside of military affairs, I prefer a weaker executive.

He did not "work with" Russia during the campaign.
He imho would have gone a lot further with his crusade against the swamp/the bureaucrats opposing him without the Mueller probe.





His approval temporarily dropped by 4.5% after the muslim ban, then recovered 3% by May 2017. The he lost 3% in a short time after firing Comey and it took over a year for his approval to recover - and that was coming off the heels of a great economy.




In hindsight, his inability to learn from his mistakes doomed him. It's perhaps the weakness of his that I underestimated the most.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 7 2021 08:45pm

We have his campaign meeting with Russian connected agents. Yes he did. The evidence doesn't rise to legally actionable, but you're pretty naive if you think he didn't at this point.

You're naive if you really think that. He had no interest in "crusading against the swamp". He was in it to corrupt the institutions by installing loyalists. This opinion is just super dumb and ignores literally his entire presidency. He literally wanted oaths of loyalty from his appointments dude.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Oct 7 2021 08:51pm

It looks to me that his disapproval jumped by 9 points by mid February which is well before Comey getting fired. There's a small bump in disapproval after the firing but it's not nearly as pronounced. Anyway, I don't think it matters all that much because the point is that he made mistakes very early on in his presidency which crippled his ability to lead.

He passed more legislation than Biden. Wipe his stuff off of your face, bro.

yeah imagine saying “russia hacked the election with trump” still (which every investigation on earth said no) and then justifying the 2020 ‘fortifying of the election’ by a collective of domestic and foreign groups

Yep.

I can't imagine what the hysteria would be, from the Trumpists on this forum, if Hillary and her campaign had been knee deep in connections to a hostile foreign power. Oh, John Podesta regularly communicated with a Chinese intelligence officer during the campaign, in the midst of a Chinese attack on our elections? No biggie.

And some "moderates" on this forum still question whether the investigation was warranted. Lol.

Define "knee deep connection". To the best of my knowledge, the meetings between Trump campaign officials and Russian entities did not amount to much and had no material outcome on the course of the 2016 race. Russian disinformation on social media might have had a marginal effect, but is also highly unlikely to have swung the election. And the Russians were doing that "for free" because they had plenty of reasons to prefer Trump over Hillary, even with Trump not being a compromised puppet.

The bigger story coming out of the Trump-Russia saga is that Trump then went on to, for selfish political reasons, stymie the investigation into Russian election interference. He put his own ass over the integrity of American elections, and for that he was blasted (deservedly so).

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 9 2021 05:53pm

there wasnt one. mueller said so. russians shitposted on facebook in 2016. it maybe benefited one candidate because the other was such a toxic asset

meanwhile the entire swamp and foreign entities banded together to “fortify the 2020 election” to get the result they wanted