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Oct 7 2021 10:14am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 7 2021 11:10am)
From the moment Trump fired Comey, it was politically impossible for him or his admin to push for any further structural changes in the intelligence community - any such attempt would have been framed by Democrats and the media as an attempt to intimidate his investigators/tamper with evidence.


and anyone with a brain who isn't a crying in the streets Lefty would have labelled increased transparency in intel agencies as both Good Trump and also a promise kept from the campaign.

if getting framed as bad by leftist media was a full stop Trump wouldn't have done anything for 4 years.
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Oct 7 2021 10:50am
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lol wut. the dissemination of the memes and shit those farms churned out was pretty wild.

the difficult thing to measure is influence on a causal scale, likely impossible. the reach of the troll farms isnt and wasnt a nonissue.



CNN articles are also shareable.
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Oct 7 2021 10:59am
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CNN articles are also shareable.


i'm not denying the scope of CNN and their propoganda machine. you are denying the scope of influence for facebook groups that are so vast we dont even have a realistic count of the number of groups, let alone members, let alone shares, let alone other platforms like redit, insta, twitter, etc.
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Oct 7 2021 11:07am
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i'm not denying the scope of CNN and their propoganda machine. you are denying the scope of influence for facebook groups that are so vast we dont even have a realistic count of the number of groups, let alone members, let alone shares, let alone other platforms like redit, insta, twitter, etc.



10,000 is less than ten million.
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Oct 7 2021 11:13am
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10,000 is less than ten million.


no need to state our sperm counts so publicly but good luck beating the odds.
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Oct 7 2021 11:21am
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and anyone with a brain who isn't a crying in the streets Lefty would have labelled increased transparency in intel agencies as both Good Trump and also a promise kept from the campaign.

if getting framed as bad by leftist media was a full stop Trump wouldn't have done anything for 4 years.


I think you severely underestimate how many people were very willing to believe a "Trump is trying to mess with the agencies investigating him" narrative.
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Oct 7 2021 11:28am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 7 2021 12:21pm)
I think you severely underestimate how many people were very willing to believe a "Trump is trying to mess with the agencies investigating him" narrative.


and were his efforts in what he did do effective and changing that narrative? no, he was willing to be self serving, but not do something that would read as self serving but actually help the American people. a perfect allegory for who he is and what his campaign and later regime was always about. up front act like you're an agent of change man of the people, behind closed doors be a self serving egotistical ass.

its only pertinent because goom was making a direct comparison of HRC/Obama and Trump. when given the chance to take some shots and do what's right Trump balked, when given the chance to take some shots and do what's best for himself he jumped at it.
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Oct 7 2021 02:56pm


I see Trump got yet another vote in the poll. :)
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 7 2021 12:21pm)
I think you severely underestimate how many people were very willing to believe a "Trump is trying to mess with the agencies investigating him" narrative.


That's because he was lol

He actively screwed with institutions for his own ends including obstructing the investigations and getting his co conspirators off.
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Oct 7 2021 04:17pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 7 Oct 2021 23:02)
That's because he was lol

He actively screwed with institutions for his own ends including obstructing the investigations and getting his co conspirators off.


Yeah, and what makes you think that people wouldn't have believed the media when they write that his latest "transparency initiative for intelligence agencies" is cast in the same mold?
The press would definitely have intervened on behalf of the swamp and I consider it completely unrealistic to assume that the 50+% of the population who already hated and distruted Trump would have been able or willing to distinguish between this hypothetical good faith reform bill and his previous, shady attempts at undermining the investigations against him.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 7 2021 04:18pm
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