Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 8 2016 01:24pm)
you know, just because you say the same thing over and over doesnt make it magically true.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-syria-no-fly-zone-third-debate_us_58084280e4b0180a36e91a53Hillary Clinton forcefully defended her support for a no-fly zone in Syria at the third presidential debate on Wednesday night.
It was the first time she was pressed by a debate moderator about risks the controversial policy would pose. The moderator, Fox News’ Chris Wallace, asked Clinton to explain how she would avoid getting into a larger war with either Russia or Syria. He noted that President Barack Obama has cited fears of escalation in rejecting the idea. Gen. Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has raised similar concerns, Wallace said.
“If you impose a no-fly zone, how do you respond to their concerns?” Wallace asked. “Secondly, if you impose a no-fly zone and a Russian plane violates that, does President Clinton shoot that plane down?”
Clinton stuck to an argument she has made many times: Creating an area where Syrian and Russian planes cannot fly would give the U.S. “leverage” over Syria and Russia to negotiate a political resolution.
..Clinton did not directly answer how she would react if a Russian plane breached a no-fly zone established by the U.S.
Nor did Clinton address the Syrian casualties that might result from a no-fly zone. In a 2013 speech to Wall Street firm Goldman Sachs, Clinton told attendees that establishing a no-fly zone would “kill a lot of Syrians,” because it would require the U.S. to take out Syrian air defenses, which are located in populous areas.
As Wallace mentioned, Clinton’s support for a no-fly zone marks not only a major disagreement with her Republican opponent Donald Trump, but with Obama.
Why Clinton's plans for no-fly zones in Syria could provoke US-Russia conflictMany in national security circles consider the risk of a confrontation with Russia to be severe: ‘I wouldn’t put it past them to shoot down a US aircraft’
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/25/hillary-clinton-syria-no-fly-zones-russia-us-warQuote
Retired senior US military pilots are increasingly alarmed that Hillary Clinton’s proposal for “no-fly zones” in Syria could lead to a military confrontation with Russia that could escalate to levels that were previously unthinkable in the post-cold war world.
The former strategists spoke to the Guardian as Clinton’s Republican rival Donald Trump warned that Clinton’s proposal to establish “safe zones” to protect beleaguered Syrian civilians would “lead to world war three”.
The proposal of no-fly zones has been fiercely debated in Washington for the past five years, but has never attracted significant enthusiasm from the military because of the risk to pilots from Syrian air defenses and the presence of Russian warplanes.
Many in US national security circles consider the risk of an aerial confrontation with the Russians to be severe.
“I wouldn’t put it past them to shoot down an American aircraft,” said James Clapper, the US director of national intelligence, on Tuesday in response to a question from the Guardian at the Council on Foreign Relations.
Those who have patrolled no-fly zones over the relatively freer skies of Bosnia and Saddam-era Iraq fear that a President Clinton would oblige the US to what one retired US air force three-star general described as an indefinite “air occupation”. Such a move would risk the lives of US pilots – and dare confrontation with a Russian military which is more aggressive than it has been in years.
This is the position Hillary is taking, and the potential liability of that decision has grave consequences if any of the powers at play here draw these red lines and someone focks up. It is a legitimate concern not to be dismissed lightly.
I think Russia ought to be a natural ally in this goal of eradicating military potential of islamic terrorists in the middle east, we should be putting out theolive branch, not increasing the saber rattling between our two nations.
This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Nov 8 2016 12:36pm
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