Quote (ChrisKz @ Jan 26 2017 03:27pm)

Emissions are the cause and effect of two things, but that does not mean that one effect is the cause of the other effect.

Quote (Thor123422 @ 26 Jan 2017 17:33)

It's much harder to make things shorter than to make them longer.

At any rate, you can't talk about global warming's effects on reefs without also talking about acid rain, since one contributes to the other both directly and as a result of the same pollution sources.

Quote (MSX98 @ 26 Jan 2017 17:33)

tldr

Quote (Knaapie @ Jan 26 2017 03:35pm)

Hmm, yeah.
You can filter out most of the sulphur to avoid acid rain.. but then you still have the greenhouse gasses being released..

Quote (balrog66 @ Jan 26 2017 04:58pm)

http://psc.apl.uw.edu/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/schweiger/ice_volume/BPIOMASIceVolumeAnomalyCurrentV2.1.png

Really hard to look up data for this, it isn't like there is tons of evidence or anything.

Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 26 2017 03:37pm)

http://www.climate4you.com/images/NSIDC%20GlobalArcticAntarctic%20SeaIceArea.gif

Since youre too lazy to keep up with our conversation...

Quote (thesnipa @ 26 Jan 2017 17:36)

so in essence you're using a semantic line between "global warming" and "climate change". Balrog rightfully pointed out that the pollution is causing a decline in reefs, to which you responded "its not caused by global warming", which no one but you brought up. He even said "Don't act like this is unrelated." which you then deflected to acid rain and how its not the same as global warming, which only you suggested. Acid rain is a result of pollution, which can be rephrased as "a cause of man made climate change" do we agree on that?

Quote (ChrisKz @ Jan 26 2017 03:39pm)

No... He said it was because of climate change >.>.

Acid rain is a result of pollution, which also causes climate change, making the two related through only the cause but the are two different effects.

Quote (ChrisKz @ Jan 26 2017 01:27pm)

Criticize about what? You going to spout out how more intelligent you are because you spent more time studying chemistry and how that made you a paragon among men? How none can paramount your intellectual existence and how the humanities and other sub-category studies pale in the face of your scientific theories and laws, the language of which defined and constructed through many years of the arts, reason honed arguments not only being relateable to science?

Emissions are the cause and effect of two things, but that does not mean that one effect is the cause of the other effect.

Quote (ChrisKz @ Jan 26 2017 01:18pm)

except acid rain isn't a part of global warming... what?

global warming is about there being so many gasses in the atmosphere that doesn't belong there... metane...co2... ect, and that acting like a barrier keeping the suns energy from bouncing off Earth and going back into space, keeping more of it than the previous more balanced atmosphere did.... creating a situation where the Earth steadily gets warmer and warmer...

acid rain is a byproduct of those gasses being in the atmosphere... but it isn't a part of global warming or its theories.

Quote (ChrisKz @ Jan 26 2017 01:21pm)

lol. your logic is so bad. bet you sucked when talking about scientific theories and laws when in class. can't separate things from each other.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 26 2017 05:36pm)

Yeah. Acid rain is a great example of government regulations working. We no longer have an issue with acid rain as a direct consequence of government intervention and it saved trillions of dollars over the long run.

It's a great example of what I was meaning in the other thread. In Libertania people would have just been allowed to sue the power and manufacturing companies out of existence over collateral damage, but government intervention saved them.