If you think Israel is the aggressor you are not worth my time
You failed understanding the very basic of this conflict.
Specially when Israel never initiated war until October 7th

before I respond, what are your views on this exchange ? are you willing for you and i have to have a debate on these matters, noting Many_Names wont?

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 1 2024 08:16am

In France we know that there is the LAW on one side and BEHAVIOR/HABITS on the other.

But when the law is nothing more than a facade behind a mechanism of radicalization, then... You are no longer in France

So now that al shifa is over, I'd imagine that rafahs gona go down soon? The longer you wait, the easier it is for hamas to regroup. Get your house in order, draft those silly haredi and take the tunnels already...it's been 6 freaking months and hamas is still swinging.

Besides once (big if here) hamas is "obliterated" you still got hezbollah, Yemen and tons of Iranian proxies to deal with. Tell bibi to get going already, yall starting to get cornered.

The MIT(Military Industrial Complex) wants a long drawn out conflict that stuffs the coffers of both sides. This is true of every conflict going back to the French Revolution and the same banking dynasty has funded both sides of every major war.

The average person only see's the surface conflict and that's how they want it. Who funded Hitler during WW2? Whose funding Israel?

Paint Israel into a corner and then initiate a wider war.

All Israel/Hamas have to do is "stir the pot" and both get what they want.

Neither can "win" but both can "win" in a "perceptually recognized loss".

Yeah I’m always willing to have a debate.
Last couple of days were intense and I didn’t get much time to be here and comment more than few lines not to mention building an argument.

OK

so can i ask you, what exactly is the westbank.

i.e.

my position is it is occupied territory, which infers that after the occupation ends, the aggressor (or say rather, the settlements, leave). Yes or No?
the follow up question (if you say yes) is then why are settlements being built there.
the follow up question (if you say no) is then what are israels borders as related to the west bank.

if this format of questions is confrontational, feel free to respond, to these questions, in your own fashion/manner.

/hoping you and yours are well.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 1 2024 09:22am

I'm gona have to disagree with you on this one. This war has been devastating for israel for numerous reasons; most notably that their international reputation has been tarnished forever and the west (thanks to the recent influx of doctors and engineers) is starting to turn its back on the holy land.

You are definitely correct that this situation will probably lead to a wider war, which is fantastic for the mic, but the consequences for israel taking on the entirety of the muslim nations will have dire results, especially if uncle sam doesn't get directly involved.

The Israelis gota wrap this up and quick

Do you think the US government or it's handlers care about Israel or Gaza because I personally don't think so.

That's why I constantly bring up the Rothschilds because there's literally 3 countries left that don't have a Rothschild central bank and their stated long term goal was to drive a wedge between two conflicting ideologies or nations with no expense spared.

"Give me control of a nations money supply and I care not who writes it's laws".

In a WW3 scenario we'd see Cuba/North Korea/Iran all fall and for no other reason then the Rothschilds wanting their "one world currency" / "one world government".

You literally have basically every long term goal being shaped around that.

Also WW3 could be theoretically "over" before it "starts". We all can safely assume that WW3 will be fought with advanced weapons and if WW2 ended when we dropped the 2 A-bombs on 2 Japanese cities I'd suspect 3 nukes(Tehran/Pyongyang/Havana) to end WW3.

Not saying that's how it'll happen but Iran/North Korea/Cuba will be targeted(replaying the allied vs axis powers)

Would the US suffer nuke strikes and would billions die in a nuclear winter or EMP winter. Yup. And that plays right into the "useless eaters" consuming "our resources" and an international body realizing even average citizens like me or you are capable of putting 2 and 2 together.

If anything Israel is setting the bar LOW for the HELL we will all face in that inevitability. Conditioning the minds of the masses.

Palestinian genocide? How about HUMAN genocide. Let's not pretend us non-elites are going to be "living it up" in Zuckerbergs bunker. Let's not pretend we aren't all going to FEMA camps when SHTF. Let's look at the stated long term goals of 90% population reduction.

So Israel is right on target when they use AI drones/aircraft to just kill everyone with no discrimination. Par for the course. There's a great Netflix documentary called, "Killer Robots" that everyone should watch. It really shows how the US doesn't need to use ground troops EVER again. Literal terminator robots and AI just killing with ease.

Like Zbigniew Brzezinski said, "I once put it rather pungently and I was flattered that the British Foreign Secretary repeated this as follows: namely in earlier times, it was easier to control a million people, literally, it was easier to control a million people, than physically, to kill a million people. Today it is infinitely easier to kill a million people than to control a million people. It is easier to kill than to control. And of course, that bears directly on the use of force particularly by societies that are culturally alien over other societies.”

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Apr 1 2024 09:56am