among a heap of trolling this one was earnest. idk what's wrong about it. if that's what you're suggesting. public opinion stood on a razor's edge preinvasion. if israel nuked the world would side with gaza. if hamas started to kill hostages the world would side with israel.

the other post about countering gaza was hyperbole. the prevailing narrative was that israel is just land hungry, when in reality gaza isnt exactly prized land, and ruling it is constant danger. i think ruling is easier in Afghanistan than gaza, and thats saying something.

Results of neo-zionism policies and far right groups like this BETAR

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betar

Part of the IDF is collaborating with these people, not officially ofc.

Not officially and not at all.
I served 3 years in special unit I’v been to the south to north.
I never received an order that seemed unreasonable.
I was never asked to shoot innocents, infact we were meeting with a judge or a lawyer with every entrance during my time.
That explained what can be done and what cant be done.
The emphasis was on never hurting innocents.
Make sure they have a gun, or bomb.
If you can neutralize without killing do it.
I was there, betar was relevant before the foundation of Israel today its practically football team with crazy fans nothing special

I will answer you question if you tell me who is the aggressor.

of course, Israel is the aggressor. They found themselves in a land already populated by people, and are aggressively kicking these people out of their homes and in to gaza or out of greater israel.
relating to the terrorist attack last year, of course, Hamas is the aggressor. The israeli (disproportionate) response is in direct response to the Hamas attack, which is in response to putting 2.1m people into a tiny spec of land and well, funding its leaders, hamas, which we now know bibi did. There are various quotes available which outline the strategy of empowering hamas was to undermine the idea of a 2 state solution.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 1 2024 08:08am

You can write what you want, facts are telling a very different story, especially these soldiers who left IDF to denounce the constant lies, crimes, and violence.

And this is the very soft version from american medias. IMHO Reality goes far beyond that

So we cant agree on the basics.

Okay you win

does this mean you wont answer my question?