Quote (duffman316 @ May 11 2016 09:06pm)

personally i just have respect for persistence, i have a certain respect for people i see regularly at the gym these days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8svuSIYQu74


the question is is this kind of thinking common amongst the morbidly obese? if so i might have offended two coworkers of mine numerous times over the past 2 years simply in talking about the kind of food i cook :/

Quote (hATemOnkEy @ May 11 2016 09:17pm)

Actually I'd applaud their willpower to actively make their lives better. I don't care if they do it for health or beauty or both.

Quote (nineinchnailz @ May 12 2016 08:30am)

I went to the doctor yesterday and he told me he had good news and bad news. He tells me the good news is that I have AIDS. I say WTF? THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS? He says the bad news is, you're so fucking fat there's no way that it will matter.

Quote (Bazi @ May 12 2016 08:45am)

I read up to page 15 and up to then objective evidence was provided that negative reinforcement encourages a long term lifestyle modification. Was something provided in this thread in the 75 pages that followed?

Quote (Bazi @ May 12 2016 07:45am)

I read up to page 15 and up to then objective evidence was provided that negative reinforcement encourages a long term lifestyle modification. Was something provided in this thread in the 75 pages that followed?

Quote (Skinned @ May 12 2016 08:55am)

I was overweight and I dropped 40 pounds due to severe depression and just not enjoying food (or life). Sadly, I think most people would take that trade :lol:

But it wasn't will, or dieting, it was incidental. A lot of weight gain and loss is incidental, based on age and metabolism, and genetics. People are built differently. When I joined the army I was considered extremely overweight, but since I had a 30 inch waist and a 20 inch neck and was as strong as a bull they used a BMI waiver....

But so many of these measurements just consider percentage of body fat, or height vs weight, and don't consider health at all.

This is a side note and tangential, but this is why looking and appearing healthy is so important in the gay male community....because the appearance of health makes people believe they are healthy, because people believe what they see. When disease is so prevalent, looking healthy is important.

When we are talking about shaming fat people, is the social stigma there because we care about their health? No, of course not. It is schadenfreude, one of the most despicable things we all tend to engage in.



TIL: excess lipids will replace an autoimmune response.

What a bad joke.



I don't believe humans can be objective. Even science is relativistic.

Quote (Skinned @ May 12 2016 08:55am)

I was overweight and I dropped 40 pounds due to severe depression and just not enjoying food (or life). Sadly, I think most people would take that trade :lol:

But it wasn't will, or dieting, it was incidental. A lot of weight gain and loss is incidental, based on age and metabolism, and genetics. People are built differently. When I joined the army I was considered extremely overweight, but since I had a 30 inch waist and a 20 inch neck and was as strong as a bull they used a BMI waiver....

But so many of these measurements just consider percentage of body fat, or height vs weight, and don't consider health at all.

This is a side note and tangential, but this is why looking and appearing healthy is so important in the gay male community....because the appearance of health makes people believe they are healthy, because people believe what they see. When disease is so prevalent, looking healthy is important.

When we are talking about shaming fat people, is the social stigma there because we care about their health? No, of course not. It is schadenfreude, one of the most despicable things we all tend to engage in.



TIL: excess lipids will replace an autoimmune response.

What a bad joke.



I don't believe humans can be objective. Even science is relativistic.

Quote (Bazi @ May 12 2016 08:45am)

I read up to page 15 and up to then NOobjective evidence was provided that negative reinforcement encourages a long term lifestyle modification. Was something provided in this thread in the 75 pages that followed?

Quote (nineinchnailz @ May 12 2016 09:01am)

The joke is that a heart attack will get you before AIDS will.

Quote (Bazi @ May 12 2016 09:07am)

Lmao I'm on a roll today

This should read NO objective evidence was provided. I and others provided articles demonstrating the non impact negative reinforcement has across several areas including lifestyle modifications

Quote (Bazi @ May 12 2016 07:45am)

I read up to page 15 and up to then objective evidence was provided that negative reinforcement encourages a long term lifestyle modification. Was something provided in this thread in the 75 pages that followed?