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Nov 11 2024 08:53pm
Quote (Ryvulet @ Nov 11 2024 06:49pm)
liberal, party of lies and slander, said trump 'said something' like this after the election; if they had proof they would've done it mid election xD


Wna know what made hitler 'bad'?

Wanting to killing Jews (something the liberals seem to want these days)

Wanting to get revenge and fuel hate and war.

These are the two key components that we can summarize of Hitler as evil. I'd say those align far more with leftist politics these days.


are you disputing what he said or are you agreeing with him?
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are you disputing what he said or are you agreeing with him?


No, I'm emphasizing that the left carries more hitler-like facist traits than the current right

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No, I'm emphasizing that the left carries more hitler-like facist traits than the current right


my bad i didnt realize you were dodging
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my bad i didnt realize you were dodging


Good argument. We have some conveniently retired person who is already out of the public notice get paid by the left (or blackmailed, who knows) to throw out some random low context accusation at Trump.

Notice how he barely even quoted what Trump might've said? If it was damning, he would've expanded, because he clearly already took a position against him. I honestly feel like I'm talking to a child when discussing things with you because you don't even think this far ahead before you throw your half-assed thoughts around.
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Not sure, but I think you could call this a... "Landslide". :D

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The liberals can't stop, lol. They gotta keep pushign this divide. Rip their party


Democrats are divided between 2 factions: nominally centre-left to left corrupt swamp creatures and the far left. The far left is now warring with themselves, with many far leftists wanted to dissociate from the 'woke left" (notably TYT) who are the extreme cultural leftists.

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Good argument. We have some conveniently retired person who is already out of the public notice get paid by the left (or blackmailed, who knows) to throw out some random low context accusation at Trump.

Notice how he barely even quoted what Trump might've said? If it was damning, he would've expanded, because he clearly already took a position against him. I honestly feel like I'm talking to a child when discussing things with you because you don't even think this far ahead before you throw your half-assed thoughts around.


youre still dodging dude, grow up
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https://www.270towin.com/2024-election-results-live/president/





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Quote (gnarjay @ 11 Nov 2024 22:04)
youre still dodging dude, grow up


What am I dodging? I'll put my stance out there, if he said potentially one of Hitler's strategies that recovered Germany and snowballed it to a war machine in a short period of time was a good idea, it probably was, tbh. I wonder how many of those key strats are commonly used in economies and policies around the world today. You take a name and immediately assume (what I point the left actually emobides) and instead of thinking of like (what was the context of the conversation and the specific thing Trump said) to critically understand why this wasn't already used to pivot the election and scare away the voters who decided to step over the left line into the right and help Trump win the election.

You are micro minded and honestly not even well-thought out there.


Now, if Trump said; "We should use the military like Hitler to oppress our peopel and censor the media, and then begin killing/deporting my enemies so that I can establish a dictatorship." I'd be concerned then.

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Quote (Ryvulet @ Nov 11 2024 07:06pm)
What am I dodging? I'll put my stance out there, if he said potentially one of Hitler's strategies that recovered Germany and snowballed it to a war machine in a short period of time was a good idea, it probably was, tbh. I wonder how many of those key strats are commonly used in economies and policies around the world today. You take a name and immediately assume (what I point the left actually emobides) and instead of thinking of like (what was the context of the conversation and the specific thing Trump said) to critically understand why this wasn't already used to pivot the election and scare away the voters who decided to step over the left line into the right and help Trump win the election.

You are micro minded and honestly not even well-thought out there.


Now, if Trump said; "We should use the military like Hitler to oppress our peopel and censor the media, and then begin killing/deporting my enemies so that I can establish a dictatorship." I'd be concerned then.


so you not only lack the context of the quote but your assumption is so far beyond generous that I can tell you clearly arent entertaining the possibility he didnt mean it in a good way

John Kelly was his longest service chief of staff, a retired Marine General, and a conservative himself.

read this in full

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Kelly has long been critical of Trump and previously accused him of calling veterans killed in combat “suckers” and “losers.” Still, his new warnings came just two weeks before Election Day, as Trump seeks a second term vowing to dramatically expand his use of the military at home and suggesting he would use force to go after Americans he considers “enemies from within.”

“Surely you can’t mean Hitler’s generals,” Kelly recalled asking Trump. To which the former president responded, “Yeah, yeah, Hitler’s generals.”
“He commented more than once that, ‘You know, Hitler did some good things, too,’” Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying “nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good,” but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

In his interview with The Atlantic, Kelly recalled that when Trump raised the idea of needing “German generals,” Kelly would ask if he meant “Bismarck’s generals,” referring to Otto von Bismarck, the former chancellor of the German Reich who oversaw the unification of Germany. “Surely you can’t mean Hitler’s generals,” Kelly recalled asking Trump. To which the former president responded, “Yeah, yeah, Hitler’s generals.”
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