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Sep 15 2021 10:10pm
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/15/us/politics/durham-michael-sussmann-trump-russia.html

John Durham's oversight probe into the probe into the 2016 election is said to be about to indict a top lawyer at Perkins Coie, Michael Sussmann, on charges he lied to the FBI.

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The case against Mr. Sussmann centers on the question of who his client was when he conveyed certain suspicions about Mr. Trump and Russia to the F.B.I. in September 2016. Among other things, investigators have examined whether Mr. Sussmann was secretly working for the Clinton campaign — which he denies.


They've empaneled a grand jury to seek the indictment, and grand juries indict 100% of the time unless the prosecutors are literally telling the grand jury not to indict him, so its a given.
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The accusation against Mr. Sussmann focuses on a meeting he had on Sept. 19, 2016, with James A. Baker, who was the F.B.I.’s top lawyer at the time, according to the people familiar with the matter. They spoke on condition of anonymity.

Because of a five-year statute of limitations for such cases, Mr. Durham has a deadline of this weekend to bring a charge over activity from that date.

At the meeting, Mr. Sussmann relayed data and analysis from cybersecurity researchers who thought that odd internet data might be evidence of a covert communications channel between computer servers associated with the Trump Organization and with Alfa Bank, a Kremlin-linked Russian financial institution.

The F.B.I. eventually decided those concerns had no merit. The special counsel who later took over the Russia investigation, Robert S. Mueller III, ignored the matter in his final report.

Mr. Sussmann’s lawyers have told the Justice Department that he sought the meeting because he and the cybersecurity researchers believed that The New York Times was on the verge of publishing an article about the Alfa Bank data and he wanted to give the F.B.I. a heads-up. (In fact, The Times was not ready to run that article, but published one mentioning Alfa Bank six weeks later.)

Mr. Durham has been using a grand jury to examine the Alfa Bank episode and appeared to be hunting for any evidence that the data had been cherry-picked or the analysis of it knowingly skewed, The New Yorker and other outlets have reported. To date, there has been no public sign that he has found any such evidence.

But Mr. Durham did apparently find an inconsistency: Mr. Baker, the former F.B.I. lawyer, is said to have told investigators that he recalled Mr. Sussmann saying that he was not meeting him on behalf of any client. But in a deposition before Congress in 2017, Mr. Sussmann testified that he sought the meeting on behalf of an unnamed client who was a cybersecurity expert and had helped analyze the data.

Moreover, internal billing records Mr. Durham is said to have obtained from Perkins Coie are said to show that when Mr. Sussmann logged certain hours as working on the Alfa Bank matter — though not the meeting with Mr. Baker — he billed the time to Mrs. Clinton’s 2016 campaign.



Any of this give you stinky parallels to the 2020 election? Donald Trump's lawyers pushing bullshit stories of election rigging and voting machine tampering and whatnot, trying to bullshit their way through the courts, and then facing repercussions for pushing their BS? Except in this case, Hillary Clinton's team wasn't content to just sow their bullshit seed in the fertile grounds of the media that welcomed it, they wanted to stir up the FBI and push the russiaburger narrative to dog Trump as part of crossfire hurricane, to use the FBI to spy on him and obstruct his campaign and later presidency.
But here we are: They kept the receipts. Hillary Clinton's little gambit to cast doubt on the election and spread misinformation through proxies was exposed because folks like Sussman don't work for free. He billed it right to Hillary Clinton.


That's the thing about Hillary's little opposition research manufacturing (since they couldn't find real dirt) operation with the Steele Dossier. She tried to give herself a distance with financial obfuscation to the point of plausible deniability, but her minions wouldn't work for free, so the money trial leads right back to #1. Contacts in the Kremlin being paid with Clintonbucks, lawyers pretending they are just conducting apolitical conversations with the FBI to feed their investigation into Trump, except they're still being paid in Clintonbucks by the hour.

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Mr. Durham has also apparently weighed bringing some sort of action against Perkins Coie as an organization. Outside lawyers for the firm recently met with the special counsel’s team and went over the evidence, according to other people familiar with their discussions, arguing that it was insufficient for any legal sanction.

The lawyers for Perkins Coie and the firm’s managing partner did not respond to phone calls and emails seeking comment.


Honestly, this is the kind of operation Durham should throw the book at. Bring the hammer down, take them to Chinatown.
Perkins Coie was little more than a veneer of legal titling thrown over a political hatchet job operation, a group of political operatives who tried to misreport their activities as "legal services" so they wouldn't be accountable to the FEC and public disclosure rules. As long as anyone can claim they are a lawyer providing legal services, they can go conduct all the dirty ops on behalf of a political campaign and not have to report where the money goes. That legal fiction needs to be brought down and made an example of.
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Sep 16 2021 04:14pm
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Dirty people deserve to be cleaned out! I think everyone knows that Durham is a hard ass but I don't think he has any biases from what I've seen.

In other news, Trump is polling at 60% for the GOP primary. It's not a particularly good pollster but it just confirms what we already know:
https://twitter.com/PollTrackerUSA/status/1438231734475235332
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Sep 16 2021 04:16pm
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Dirty people deserve to be cleaned out! I think everyone knows that Durham is a hard ass but I don't think he has any biases from what I've seen.

In other news, Trump is polling at 60% for the GOP primary. It's not a particularly good pollster but it just confirms what we already know:
https://twitter.com/PollTrackerUSA/status/1438231734475235332


https://www.reddit.com/r/BidenRegret/
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Sep 16 2021 05:55pm
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Quote (thundercock @ 16 Sep 2021 18:14)
Dirty people deserve to be cleaned out! I think everyone knows that Durham is a hard ass but I don't think he has any biases from what I've seen.

In other news, Trump is polling at 60% for the GOP primary. It's not a particularly good pollster but it just confirms what we already know:
https://twitter.com/PollTrackerUSA/status/1438231734475235332

yawn. one guy at one law firm. meanwhile the gop swamp/democrats/lefties/media focused 5 years of our lives on getting Trump impeached twice, once because a dual-citizen pale pasty sellout didn’t approve of the foreign policy and another due to something the harris/biden intelligence agencies said he didnt do.
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Sep 16 2021 06:05pm
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yawn. one guy at one law firm. meanwhile the gop swamp/democrats/lefties/media focused 5 years of our lives on getting Trump impeached twice, once because a dual-citizen pale pasty sellout didn’t approve of the foreign policy and another due to something the harris/biden intelligence agencies said he didnt do.


And besides, who cares if Hillary's team was doing shady stuff. What does it matter? She's out of the picture, these people don't hold any power. The worst we can say is that they tried concealed campaign finances and tried to manipulate the FBI. Trying to do dirty attacks and pretend Hillary's hands were clean by obfuscating her ties to it. Her campaign passed around money in a shell game to circumvent donation limits and laundered money to political operatives by reporting it as "legal services" to lawyers, but.... so what? I care as much about their corruption at this point as I care about Tammany Hall.

What really mattered was the crooked FBI agents, those who were in league with Hillary, those who had their own personal agendas and machinations and freely abused their powers, those who used the state's surveillance apparatus to meddle in an election and spy on a political opponent and try to conjure up an investigation out of nothing. Comey and McCabe were atop a den of vipers and every bit as corrupt as Hoover without any of the misguided idealism. The culture of the FBI and the total impunity with which they acted out their little Le Carre live action roleplaying is the real issue here, and what was the accountability? I mean, I guess Barr's approach was to untangle the web of politicization of the FBI by just having the FBI drop all political cases and let people like McCabe and Ilhan Omar and so on get away with their crimes unchecked so that the bullshit investigations could be dropped likewise. That's an overall better outcome than what we had before, and arguably the best we could have had, I guess.

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What is dead may never die.


https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/06/two-thirds-of-republicans-want-trump-to-retain-major-political-role-44-want-him-to-run-again-in-2024/
This recent Pew poll of Republican voters and Republican-leaning independents finds that "only" 44% want Trump to run again in 2024. Against a non-unified field (doesn't even have to be highly fractured), this would almost surely hand him the nomination based on strong pluralities.

Still, this figure to me is evidence for two things I've been saying for a long time: first, enthusiasm for another Trump candidacy is not actually as high as non-Republican Trump critics think it is. Second, he is very much beatable if the party establishment can coalesce around a suitable alternative before the primary kicks off.

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What is dead may never die.


https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/06/two-thirds-of-republicans-want-trump-to-retain-major-political-role-44-want-him-to-run-again-in-2024/
This recent Pew poll of Republican voters and Republican-leaning independents finds that "only" 44% want Trump to run again in 2024. Against a non-unified field (doesn't even have to be highly fractured), this would almost surely hand him the nomination based on strong pluralities.

Still, this figure to me is evidence for two things I've been saying for a long time: first, enthusiasm for another Trump candidacy is not actually as high as non-Republican Trump critics think it is. Second, he is very much beatable if the party establishment can coalesce around a suitable alternative before the primary kicks off.

These fuckers cannot stop talking about the boogeyman they wanted gone and coalesced together for four years to defeat him. the GOPe can stuff it. they are part of the 81 million who voted for the harris/biden ticket. soon as they manage to elect another stooge from their own team (which is the anti-America swamp) they’ll pretend to support anything remotely pro-America again
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Oct 6 2021 08:48pm
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What is dead may never die.


https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/06/two-thirds-of-republicans-want-trump-to-retain-major-political-role-44-want-him-to-run-again-in-2024/
This recent Pew poll of Republican voters and Republican-leaning independents finds that "only" 44% want Trump to run again in 2024. Against a non-unified field (doesn't even have to be highly fractured), this would almost surely hand him the nomination based on strong pluralities.

Still, this figure to me is evidence for two things I've been saying for a long time: first, enthusiasm for another Trump candidacy is not actually as high as non-Republican Trump critics think it is. Second, he is very much beatable if the party establishment can coalesce around a suitable alternative before the primary kicks off.


There were 16 candidates in 2016. This is lookin' bad lol.
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Oct 6 2021 08:56pm
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There were 16 candidates in 2016. This is lookin' bad lol.


There's no way the party establishment repeats its mistake from 2016 and doesnt coalesce around a single Trump-alternative.
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