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May 5 2023 03:32pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ May 5 2023 02:24pm)
And he helps.. its not your free will anymore its not your choices that determine the outcome.


my free will to chose which path i would follow. you only have two choices which master you will serve. if your choice is to serve your self your really serving the evil one. I remember back when I used to do the things i used to do, like drinking. I used to believe i was doing what i wanted to do never realizing that i was really just a slave to the stuff (a heavy yoke).

you take the heavy yoke or the light one? who you going to serve? the one that loves you or the one that hates you?
you have free will who you will serve. its just not the range of free will that you imagine it to be.

Matthew 11:28-30 KJV
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

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May 5 2023 03:36pm
Quote (TiStuff @ May 5 2023 02:32pm)
my free will to chose which path i would follow. you only have two choices which master you will serve. if your choice is to serve your self your really serving the evil one. I remember back when I used to do the things i used to do, like drinking. I used to believe i was doing what i wanted to do never realizing that i was really just a slave to the stuff (a heavy yoke).

you take the heavy yoke or the light one? who you going to serve? the one that loves you or the one that hates you?
you have free will who you will serve. its just not the range of free will that you imagine it to be.

Matthew 11:28-30 KJV
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.


quoting the bible proves NOTHING
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May 5 2023 04:59pm
Quote (Modulok2405 @ May 5 2023 10:19pm)
You obviously - clearly visible for everyone - drew the conclusion that I drew a conclusion, which I didnt. Typical religious no brain reaction to repeat my answer.


You obviously - clearly visible for everyone - drew the conclusion that I drew a conclusion, which I didn't. Typical non-religious no brain reaction to repeat my answer.

Quote (theCrossbones @ May 6 2023 01:30am)
Yea? So he comes and saves you from making a bad choice. How is that your free will. You should think through that statement more.
Factually you cannot have 100% freewill AND have God respond to your "requests" via prayer.
The term faith disappears if God is changing all of your life path to how it he thinks it should turn out. nice to be complete free from responsibility of your own actions.
Inset "god wills it meme" millions have been murdered with this though process as the back bone.
1. You either have free will and your morality is yours to uphold yourself.
2. Or your a mindless tool of god and have no say in this matter and no good or evil stamp can be placed on you.. A hold harmless agreement.
they cannot intertwine. "god uses our free will to accomplish his will".. LMFAO explain how that works please.


Saves me from making bad choices you say? That's something I haven't heard before. I'm trying to think how you came to that when that's obviously not what was said.

You already forgot that I said God's will and our Free will intertwine. Do you know what that means?

I suggest you read this post again and actually read it this time: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=99644580&f=119&p=645490302#p645490302
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May 5 2023 06:40pm
Quote (CPK001 @ May 5 2023 03:59pm)
You obviously - clearly visible for everyone - drew the conclusion that I drew a conclusion, which I didn't. Typical non-religious no brain reaction to repeat my answer.



Saves me from making bad choices you say? That's something I haven't heard before. I'm trying to think how you came to that when that's obviously not what was said.

You already forgot that I said God's will and our Free will intertwine. Do you know what that means?

I suggest you read this post again and actually read it this time: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=99644580&f=119&p=645490302#p645490302


I know its not possible. /end
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May 5 2023 07:43pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ May 6 2023 10:40am)
I know its not possible. /end


It's not possible for you to re-read that post?
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May 5 2023 07:52pm
Quote (CPK001 @ May 5 2023 06:43pm)
It's not possible for you to re-read that post?


facts elude u
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May 5 2023 10:09pm
interesting viewpoint

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May 5 2023 10:31pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ May 6 2023 02:40am)
I know its not possible. /end


This CPK-Idiot is nothing but a major troll, dont bother arguing with him, its wasted lifetime.
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May 5 2023 11:12pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ May 6 2023 11:52am)
facts elude u


You light the lamp and put it under the table. Then you wonder why it's so dark.

Quote (Modulok2405 @ May 6 2023 02:31pm)
This CPK-Idiot is nothing but a major troll, dont bother arguing with him, its wasted lifetime.


Perhaps you can use that extra time to buy a new keyboard that has a working apostrophe key.
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May 5 2023 11:34pm
Quote (CPK001 @ May 5 2023 10:12pm)
You light the lamp and put it under the table. Then you wonder why it's so dark.



Perhaps you can use that extra time to buy a new keyboard that has a working apostrophe key.


wut?
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