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Aug 12 2022 03:51pm
Quote (Acuity @ Aug 12 2022 11:42pm)
You're usually a pretty level headed individual and I don't pretend to know EXACTLY what documentation you sign when becoming POTUS but generally from what little I do know you give away certain rights and the burden of proof required to cast reasonable suspicion or to get any sort of warrant is much lower for those who have access top classified documentation.


The issue is if the raid was excessive or not. This could've been dealt with in a normal way but because the present (D) administration are scared Trump runs again they authorized this raid.
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Quote (Acuity @ Aug 12 2022 05:49pm)
So what you're saying is all those contracts and NDA's you sign don't matter the moment you leave office? Dude, you sign an NDA with a job and quit or get fired that shit is still legally binding.

Anyways I'm not going to debate that with you.

But let's play that "What If" game from both sides. What if they didn't have enough for a warrant and found the documents?

Now let's look at the other side what would be the explanation for "What If" they did.

There's a lot of assumptions right now but the facts we know are he was served with a search warrant and they found classified documents.






The law is the law. The FBI and the left have been side stepping the law for the past 6 years, and there's no sign of them stopping.
Here's my list... cause I don't think you've seen it yet...


1. Dems paid for false documentation (Steele dossier), and bought the major media sources.
2. Dems used the false documentation to acquire FISA warrants... illegally.
3. Dems used those FISA warrants to illegally spy on the Republican nominee... et al.
4. Dems got just about every Dem judge in the land to allow idiotic suits against anything Trump tried to accomplish.
5. Dems used the information they got illegally, to harass, charge and convict any and all in the hope something would drop that they could use against Trump.
5. Dems also used this illegally gotten information to start the Russiagate investigation.
7. Dems then got Blasey_Ford to accuse Kavanaugh.
8. Dems paid protesters to disrupt the Kavanuagh hearings.
9. Dem Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, went on Facebook and said: "I wish someone would assassinate Trump.
10. Dem Congress woman Waters in interviews called for other Dems to harass and assault Republicans, Republican politicians and white house staff, w/e they went out in public.
11. Dems, after Mueller came back with no conviction, started in on Ukrainegate.
12. Dems used falsified statements by whistle blower and then by State Dept. members, to go for an Impeachment.
13. Dems, after failing to get Trump ousted started blaming Trump for covid-19 response, even though it's been proven that the W.H.O withheld crucial information from not only the US, but from the World.
14. Dems, after failing to damage the President of the US enough, with that... are now adding fuel to the fire, to incite to riot.
15. Dems then, use the resulting chaos to try to trap Trump between a rock and a hard place... whether or not to use the military to put a stop to the rioting and damage.
16. Dems now, call out their hole card, Mattis, to add edges to the rock and the hard place they've set up.
17. Dem Nancy Pelosi: “I just don’t know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be.”
18. Dem Kamala Harris: “Protesters should not let up” and “They’re not gonna let up and they should not.”
19. Dem Ayanna Pressley: “There needs to be unrest in the streets.”
20. Dems waste tax payer's money a third time with Insurrectiongate.

21. Then to present... Januarygate.
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Quote (Djunior @ Aug 12 2022 02:51pm)
The issue is if the raid was excessive or not. This could've been dealt with in a normal way but because the present (D) administration are scared Trump runs again they authorized this raid.


You mean when they asked for them back for months and months? you mean that normal way?
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Aug 12 2022 03:53pm
Quote (Acuity @ Aug 13 2022 12:49am)
So what you're saying is all those contracts and NDA's you sign don't matter the moment you leave office? Dude, you sign an NDA with a job and quit or get fired that shit is still legally binding.


lfmao i cant... clowns be mentioning >>NDA's<< in regards to the US Presidency uahaahhahaha





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Aug 12 2022 03:55pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ Aug 12 2022 11:52pm)
You mean when they asked for them back for months and months? you mean that normal way?


No former president has had to deal with this kind of shit. Issues were resolved in a normal manner. I'm sure you watched the news the last couple days
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Aug 12 2022 03:56pm
Quote (Ghot @ Aug 12 2022 02:52pm)
The law is the law. The FBI and the left have been side stepping the law for the past 6 years, and there's no sign of them stopping.
Here's my list... cause I don't think you've seen it yet...


1. Dems paid for false documentation (Steele dossier), and bought the major media sources.
2. Dems used the false documentation to acquire FISA warrants... illegally.
3. Dems used those FISA warrants to illegally spy on the Republican nominee... et al.
4. Dems got just about every Dem judge in the land to allow idiotic suits against anything Trump tried to accomplish.
5. Dems used the information they got illegally, to harass, charge and convict any and all in the hope something would drop that they could use against Trump.
5. Dems also used this illegally gotten information to start the Russiagate investigation.
7. Dems then got Blasey_Ford to accuse Kavanaugh.
8. Dems paid protesters to disrupt the Kavanuagh hearings.
9. Dem Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, went on Facebook and said: "I wish someone would assassinate Trump.
10. Dem Congress woman Waters in interviews called for other Dems to harass and assault Republicans, Republican politicians and white house staff, w/e they went out in public.
11. Dems, after Mueller came back with no conviction, started in on Ukrainegate.
12. Dems used falsified statements by whistle blower and then by State Dept. members, to go for an Impeachment.
13. Dems, after failing to get Trump ousted started blaming Trump for covid-19 response, even though it's been proven that the W.H.O withheld crucial information from not only the US, but from the World.
14. Dems, after failing to damage the President of the US enough, with that... are now adding fuel to the fire, to incite to riot.
15. Dems then, use the resulting chaos to try to trap Trump between a rock and a hard place... whether or not to use the military to put a stop to the rioting and damage.
16. Dems now, call out their hole card, Mattis, to add edges to the rock and the hard place they've set up.
17. Dem Nancy Pelosi: “I just don’t know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be.”
18. Dem Kamala Harris: “Protesters should not let up” and “They’re not gonna let up and they should not.”
19. Dem Ayanna Pressley: “There needs to be unrest in the streets.”
20. Dems waste tax payer's money a third time with Insurrectiongate.

21. Then to present... Januarygate.


My point has nothing to do with the FBI

You're literally using the argument "What IF if they didn't have probably cause" to defend Trump, right?

I'm saying WHAT IF they had reasonable suspicion and he got caught with the documents?

You're making assumptions that they didn't I'm not making any assumptions other than the facts that we have.

Search Warrant lead to 11 classified documents being found in his residence.

This post was edited by Acuity on Aug 12 2022 03:57pm
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My point has nothing to do with the FBI

You're literally using the argument "What IF if they didn't have probably cause" to defend Trump, right?

I'm saying WHAT IF they had reasonable suspicion and he got caught with the documents?




Well, until we KNOW that's what happened... there's really no point in discussing it.
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Aug 12 2022 03:58pm
Quote (Djunior @ Aug 12 2022 02:55pm)
No former president has had to deal with this kind of shit. Issues were resolved in a normal manner. I'm sure you watched the news the last couple days


Im sure if they were returned.. there would of been no reason to get a search warrant to get them.
:bonk:

This post was edited by theCrossbones on Aug 12 2022 03:58pm
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Aug 12 2022 03:59pm
Quote (Ghot @ Aug 12 2022 02:57pm)
Well, until we KNOW that's what happened... there's really no point in discussing it.


We know he got caught with 11 classified documents which was illegal.

Sounds pretty illegal.

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Quote (HeLiCaL @ Aug 12 2022 02:53pm)
lfmao i cant... clowns be mentioning >>NDA's<< in regards to the US Presidency uahaahhahaha

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