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Quote (Ghot @ Aug 19 2021 06:02pm)
I think ^IceMage secretly has a thing for Trump. Kind of worships him, and all that. :)


Can you create a Trump 2024 thread please? That way, this one can be closed.
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looks like pollster’s illegitimate offspring icemage will keep this topic bumped until the end of times :lol:


Pollster was a douche, but he was also the most politically knowledgeable person here.

If Republicans abandon Trump and stop being crazy, I'll let this thread die.
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Pollster was a douche, but he was also the most politically knowledgeable person here.

If Republicans abandon Trump and stop being crazy, I'll let this thread die.


Are we talking about the same guy? He berated anyone who didn't believe a Clinton blow-out was coming, and disparaged any poll that didn't show Clinton with a huge lead.
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'always believe the opposite of what pollster says'
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Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 20 2021 10:06am)
'always believe the opposite of what pollster says'


pollster = gone

pollster = says nothing

so i must believe everything?
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Are we talking about the same guy? He berated anyone who didn't believe a Clinton blow-out was coming, and disparaged any poll that didn't show Clinton with a huge lead.


I don't believe that's true. My recollection is Pollster acknowledged Trump could win.

Either way, even people who are extremely knowledgeable about politics(or baseball, or whatever) can make a false prediction. That doesn't mean they are ignorant, it means that things with a low chance of happening sometimes occur.
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Aug 20 2021 10:16am
Quote (IceMage @ Aug 20 2021 07:18am)
Pollster was a douche, but he was also the most politically knowledgeable person here.

If Republicans abandon Trump and stop being crazy, I'll let this thread die.


Idk I'd pay like 30$ per month to watch if Trump starts a media company.
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Are we talking about the same guy? He berated anyone who didn't believe a Clinton blow-out was coming, and disparaged any poll that didn't show Clinton with a huge lead.

yep. then immediately pivoted to ‘russia hacked the election’ pollster also got the 2014 senate race all wrong. also pretended to be a girl so he’d get free fg from randos :lol:

i kamehameha’d him to mmo-champion after giving him so many logic beatdowns. good riddance!

not surprised icemage is in denial about the 2016 election commentary by pollster too lmao

Quote (Pollster @ 3 Nov 2016 17:36)
The easiest path for Clinton remains MI/WI/PA/CO/VA/NH for 272 EVs, and even that allows for the off chance that the less-educated, more-rural ME-2 congressional district narrowly drifts to Trump (and keeps the Omaha-based NE-2 at a tossup). She's using NV as insurance since the early voting numbers continue to look good there (very similar to 2012), and is aggressively playing for NC and FL because a win in either would cut Trump off almost immediately.

It'd seriously be the height of stupidity to think that it'd be a disappointment if Clinton doesn't outperform the largest NPV win in the last 30 years (we tend to ignore 1996 since it'd be unfair to Dole to compare a guy who was triaged to people who weren't). There should be no confusion why Clinton isn't winning by a historic margin: that rarely happens anymore, and she's held to an entirely different standard in every way. Her media coverage was overwhelmingly negative (especially in 2015), whereas Trump received an unprecedented sum of free media that actually graded out as positive since most of it came in the form of his rallies being televised with no commentary.


Quote (Pollster @ 8 Jan 2016 11:56)
I keep seeing stuff like this; it's remarkable in its lack of awareness. No one is looking forward to a Trump primary win more than liberals because they're not dumb -- they know he'll get shit on in November

If Trump gets nominated then this election will be over by the time polls close in New Mexico. Everyone will get the math (78 Electoral Votes automatically going to the Democrats on the West Coast) and he'll be getting shoved up on stage to meander through some stream-of-consciousness concession speech.


Quote (Pollster @ 3 Feb 2016 12:26)
I hope he stays. The kind of districts and states this clown would put in play just boggles the mind....


Quote (Pollster @ 1 Jul 2016 16:35)
Huffington Post has the best aggregate by far, the aptly-named "HuffPo Pollster,"


https://mobile.twitter.com/pollsterpolls?lang=en
https://mobile.twitter.com/huffpost/status/795663593689808896?lang=en
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2016/forecast/president

Quote (HuffpostPollster)
We simulated a Nov. 8 election 10 million times using our state-by-state averages. In 9.8 million simulations, Hillary Clinton ended up with at least 270 electoral votes. Therefore, we say Clinton has a 98.0 percent chance of becoming president.






This post was edited by excellence on Aug 20 2021 11:28am
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Quote (excellence @ Aug 20 2021 12:21pm)
yep. then immediately pivoted to ‘russia hacked the election’ pollster also got the 2014 senate race all wrong. also pretended to be a girl so he’d get free fg from randos :lol:

i kamehameha’d him to mmo-champion after giving him so many logic beatdowns. good riddance!

not surprised icemage is in denial about the 2016 election commentary by pollster too lmao









https://mobile.twitter.com/pollsterpolls?lang=en
https://mobile.twitter.com/huffpost/status/795663593689808896?lang=en
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2016/forecast/president



https://i.imgur.com/AW8wHaf.png

https://www.pngall.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Face-with-Tears-of-Joy-Emoji-PNG-180x180.png


inb4 "1.6% isnt 0%"

This post was edited by Goomshill on Aug 20 2021 01:00pm
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not surprised icemage is in denial about the 2016 election commentary by pollster too lmao


First off, you quoted him saying this, but it's evidence that he wasn't hyping up Hillary's forecasted victory:

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It'd seriously be the height of stupidity to think that it'd be a disappointment if Clinton doesn't outperform the largest NPV win in the last 30 years


You can pull a couple quotes from months before election day, but I recall Pollster acknowledged the possibility that Trump could win the election. In fact:

Quote (Pollster @ Nov 15 2016 09:06pm)
Naturally I appreciate the laugh on this, but the reality is that I'm the one who never said that Trump couldn't win an election. Other users, including coincidentally IceMage, often remarked with surprise at various stages when I wouldn't declare this race "over." I refused to do that because I know how elections can go sometimes.

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