Israel declared war after the Hamas attack.

Yes or no?

True or false?

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Mar 28 2024 06:12am

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231215-israel-social-security-data-reveals-true-picture-of-oct-7-deaths
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/9/what-does-israels-declaration-of-war-mean-for-palestinians-in-gaza

you twist anything i say so I will just post these links and videos and you can make up your own mind.



This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 28 2024 06:21am

I understand, you don't want to answer.

Your not debating in good faith.

I am sorry you cant read or watch videos.

lets try again:

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231215-israel-social-security-data-reveals-true-picture-of-oct-7-deaths
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/9/what-does-israels-declaration-of-war-mean-for-palestinians-in-gaza



This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 28 2024 06:35am

You didn't answer my question. Without honestly answering there is no discussion possible.

You willingly ignore the facts.

I willingly ignore facts? what facts?

1. That Israel is disproportionately responding to a terrorist act, im not ignoring that.
2. Flattening Gaza, willfully targeting civilians, killing over 31,000 confirmed and probably another 10,000 unconfirmed, probably 90,000 injured, im not ignoring that either.
3. Waging a war of genocide and planning to settle Gaza when the dust settles? im not ignoring that.
4. Stealing land in the Westbank with no end in sight? brutalizing the indigenous population for decades? im not ignoring that.

what facts am i ignoring ? im confused.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 28 2024 06:44am

The fact that the US supports it, which of course makes it a good thing!

That Hamas' actions instigated a war.
Do you still deny this?

And for perspective, you do believe Ukraine's actions instigated a war with Russia?

what do you mean by still? Israel responded to the terrorist act, declared war in order to do w/e the hell it wanted, invaded gaza, carpet bombed etc. if you are projecting that i deny this, thats on you not me. I am saying the terrorist act didnt happen in a vacuum, and was inevitable and will repeat itself. if you want to ignore everything before 07/10, everything happening at the moment and everything expected to happen in the future, I really dont mind, but the people being brutalized will remember and a % of them will hold a grudge. You cannot expect to brutalize everyone not the same as you, for decades, and not get a % blowback. especially if your population is tiny. This has happened throughout humanity for centuries.

and for ukraine, yes, bombing your own people for 8 years (and moving to a military alliance with Russia's enemies) instigated a war with Russia.

baffling you dont understand these concepts when even the Ukrainians admitted to this, in videos, which we posted, in the thread.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 28 2024 06:58am