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Mar 28 2024 05:56am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 28 2024 07:20am)
Solution is don't start wars with Israel.

When your opponent has fighter jets and you have paragliders, don't throw stones.


They're not throwing stones.

They're firing Yasins and while Israel has done a fantastic job of destroying the entirety of gazan infrastructure, the tunnels (and the production of hamas military weapons) remains entirely intact.

Destroying hamas has never been the objective
Finding a final solution to the Gaza problem has always been the goal
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ofc it is instigating a response.


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You do see the contradiction in what your saying right?

Hamas commits an act of war. Starts a war.

You say they didn't instigate a war?
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You do see the contradiction in what your saying right?

Hamas commits an act of war. Starts a war.

You say they didn't instigate a war?


a terrorist act is not an act of war. it is a terrorist act. If you want to call it an act of war then the response should be to bring those responsible to justice, not to collectively punish an entire people. in terms of contradictions you would be better placed to question yourself then me!

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Quote (zorzin @ Mar 28 2024 11:56am)
They're not throwing stones.

They're firing Yasins and while Israel has done a fantastic job of destroying the entirety of gazan infrastructure, the tunnels (and the production of hamas military weapons) remains entirely intact.

Destroying hamas has never been the objective
Finding a final solution to the Gaza problem has always been the goal



That was the stated goal from day 1.

Tunnels going down, don't pretend otherwise.

Will they try digging more? Probably.
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a terrorist act is not an act of war. it is a terrorist act. in terms of contradictions you would be better placed to question yourself then me!


Oh come on :rolleyes:

You can't be taken seriously
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 28 2024 11:58am)
Oh come on :rolleyes:

You can't be taken seriously


I edited my posts. feel free to not edit yours. You are questioning whether the Israeli response is disproportionate or not. Based on the UN, the court of world public opinion is on my side and not on yours, therefore, if i wanted to, I could better say that you cant be taken seriously. When arguing, you should argue your point, not make personal attacks as all that does is undermine your position. of course, if you want to undermine your position, continue with the personal attacks, i really dont mind, winning the argument i mean.

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I edited my posts. feel free to not edit yours. You are questioning whether the Israeli response is disproportionate or not. the court of world public opinion is on my side and not on yours, therefore, if i wanted to, I could better say that you cant be taken seriously.


A war is now happening.

If Hamas didn't murder 1100 people and take more hostage, then there is no war.

Hamas started the war.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 28 2024 12:01pm)
A war is now happening.

If Hamas didn't murder 1100 people and take more hostage, then there is no war.

Hamas started the war.


Oh I thought decades of oppression, brutality, imprisonment, punishment beatings, ethnic cleansing, theft and apartheid were the drivers for the current conflict. my bad. i must have missed the memo. Most people dont see a war in gaza though, they see a one-sided annihilation of a people. I guess the israeli IDF is pretty good at killing people.

for the israeli's reading, i am not choosing my words carefully, apologies, but he is asking for this.

we are an irishman and a scottish man arguing about Israel. Let the Israeli's and the Americans have their say.

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Oh I thought decades of oppression, brutality, ethnic cleansing, theft and apartheid were the drivers for the current conflict. my bad. i must have missed the memo. Most people dont see a war in gaza though, they see a one-sided annihilation of a people. I guess the israeli IDF is pretty good at killing people.

for the israeli's reading, i am not choosing my words carefully, apologies, but he is asking for this.


There was no invasion of Gaza before the October 7th attack.

Saying otherwise is dishonest. That was pretty cheap framing on your part.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 28 2024 12:06pm)
There was no invasion of Gaza before the October 7th attack.

Saying otherwise is dishonest. That was pretty cheap framing on your part.


technically there was an invasion of gaza before 7/10 - when Israel kicked its non jews into the largest open air prison in the world, from 700000 people to 2100000 over the span of 5 years. continue with the personal attacks, neutral observers reading (and thats what this is, the court of public opinion) will see you personally attacking me and me responding with facts. you cannot expect to throw 2.1 million people into a tiny area, continue to mistreat your minorities and not expect something to go wrong, especially when you have spent years funding the terrorist organization housed within that area and controlling it.

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