Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 24 2026 10:52pm)

The biggest trap the modern left fell into was embracing open border policies and the climate craze. Those are two issues which both their credentialed base and their donor class deeply believe in and won't compromise on all that much, but which also go completely against the material and cultural self-interest of working-class people. Those are the two big wedge issues which ruin any pitch about how the policies of contemporary lefties would improve the living standard of the lower classes.

As Bernie Sanders so succinctly put it back in 2016, when he still focused on class rather than wokism: "open borders are a Koch brothers proposal".

Quote (Pyrotechx @ 25 Jul 2026 11:59)

I'll agree with open borders. That is a thorn in the side of dems, but climate change is real. If you can't see that our ecosystem is being royally fucked by billionaires, all I can say is go outside more.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Jul 24 2026 11:02pm)

Climate change is real...but it is also funny that articles are blaming (in a sense) a much warmer climate because we cleaned up the atmosphere. :lol:

Quote (Pyrotechx @ 25 Jul 2026 12:08)

Everyone collectively repaired the atmosphere... Now if climate deniers and antivaxxers could just get BACK one board...

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Jul 24 2026 11:13pm)

There is good reason for antivaxxers to behave the way they do...because you actually need a decent amount of time to make sure the vaccine produce have as little side effects as possible.
Covid came too suddenly at least that was what was reported and the vaccines came out too fast and furious.

But I am quite taken aback towards some antivaxxers, because most of us get our BCG (Bacillus Calmette-Guérin) shots when we are 3 to 4 years old.
I would think this is at least 90% universal (99% in the West)

So I am not sure what anti vaxxers think of that.

Quote (Pyrotechx @ 25 Jul 2026 12:56)

Anti-vaxxers don't think. They wait to be told what to think.