I clearly pointed out how a real crisis and hunger looks like. Seeing you chanting false Palestinian propaganda proves my second point that the Palestinians are the masters of PR.
Yeah I’m perfectly fine with destroying Hamas.





Wtf are you even talking about lol

You waste your time
We will fight Hamas until the end with those 2 muslims whining or without.

There is no Genocide they know it we know it the rest of the world knows it.

Israel is starting to turn up the heat against hezbollah:

The Israeli airstrike, near the northeastern town of Zboud, marked the deepest strike in Lebanon since the outbreak of cross-border clashes between Israel and Hezbollah last October.

An army statement said the strike targeted “a military compound used by Hezbollah’s aerial unit” near Zboud in the Baalbek District.


https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-fighter-jets-strike-hezbollah-compound-deep-in-lebanon/3175701

Apparently Israel is also starting to intercept small arms being smuggled through Jordan to the west bank; one can only guess what country is facilitating this.

Imho the first correctus Israel could do is to blame Netanyahu, but this would not change what the world (including U.S) think about what this country became. Simple.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Mar 27 2024 08:24am

I tend to agree with this sentiment, but I would word it slightly differently - Imho the first correction Israel could do is to blame Netanyahu, but it would not change the cultural status quo in Israel, i.e. their treatment of other peoples (Gaza; The West Bank; Greater Israel). For this reason I honestly dont see them throwing him under the proverbial bus in the short term, as he is doing what they want him to do. It is a huge problem for Israel that its leadership is so radical, and that this has led to policies that have so fundamentally fallen out with the US. Removing Netanyahu is the obvious course, but they are probably banking on a change in leadership, or after the US elections, to reset the relationship with the US. i.e. the ship is still sailing in the same direction. Netanyahu might just be the political piece that has to go for appearances sake. Its a bit of a wait and see. For all intents and purposes Netanyahu has a cult like following where they will forgive any wrongs, and he is acting on the will of the people. Unless someone wants to refute that.

Israel is in a tough spot, it is a religious state, unwilling to lose its cultural / religious identity, which is a credible fear, because it would lose this identity over time if it normalized relations with those it deems lesser human. i.e. if it were to act and exist like a western country. Its leadership is very right-wing and employing policies that every other country in the UN is distancing itself from. At the end of the day Israel's population is only 9 million - about the same population as London or New York. Quite frankly they dont make enough babies and they are too busy alienating the 400M people surrounding them. The road they are going on is a dead end. If you treat people like animals they will behave like animals and the crime of ethnic cleansing does not go away, forever.

https://time.com/6333781/israel-hamas-poll-palestine/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/thousands-of-right-wing-activists-are-preparing-to-resettle-gaza-after-the-war/
https://www.irishtimes.com/world/middle-east/2024/02/18/israel-rules-out-palestinian-state-as-part-of-settlement-after-gaza-war/
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/02/11/as-gaza-war-rages-on-israeli-settlement-expansion-is-accelerating-in-west-bank_6514888_4.html
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/29/israeli-ministers-join-gathering-calling-for-rebuilding-settlements-in-gaza
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/17/middleeast/israel-far-right-gaza-settler-movement-cmd-intl/index.html

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 27 2024 10:29am

Palestinians are suffering through a real crisis and hunger now, due to the greedy and bloodthirsty Israelis. hamas has no PR LOL, not like the evil IDF. youre deluded

at this point I think only the mentally ill Israelies are the ones saying it isnt a genocide, even the US is backing away from you guys. if Israel were a person they'd be locked up in a mental asylum

Can I be flippant ?

I did a google search of "% of israel mentally ill" and the top result quoted a figure of 46%.



on a serious note. Israel is a religious state and in order to maintain that state it has employed policies which no longer exist in most places around the world, say, like south africa or in america. an entire people cannot be mentally ill, but their culture can be radically different from yours or mine, and clearly, israeli culture is radically different.

They are surrounded by enemies on all sides and have employed a policy of brute force for decades. I personally think that strategy is doomed but we will have a better idea in a few hundred years on the merits of their policy (which shows no signs of changing).

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 27 2024 11:22am

Take this with a heavy grain of salt:

The exemption for hasidic israelies serving in the idf is due to expire in about a month with talks that it won't get renewed, forcing them to serve in the idf. This has led to rumors that gantz and gallant will walk away from the coalition.

At the same time you have other members of the Knesset (most notably gvir) and large swaths of the Israeli public screaming at bibi for taking too long in Gaza, while letting hezbollah walk all over them in the north (just today hezz launched missles that bypassed the iron dome hitting factories in Kiryat Shmona)

Couple this with the fact that it appears that at least politically, America no longer has israels back and syria/iraq has fallen into the Iranian sphere of influence: I could see bibi getting the boot.

America has Israel's back politically, they just no longer have benni's back. I dont know enough of the internal political structure of Israel to comment on your other points, therefore I will just accept it at face value until someone refutes. Next Israeli elections in 2026 ?

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 27 2024 11:25am