Quote (TiStuff @ 5 May 2023 13:10)

only suckers mindlessly believe wikipedia
Astroturf and manipulation of media messages | Sharyl Attkisson | TEDxUniversityofNevada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bYAQ-ZZtEU
@03:55 and then there is wikipedia.
wikipedia are known for being shills for hire

Quote (CPK001 @ May 5 2023 12:59pm)

Therein lies the problem with you. I give an answer with which you weren't expecting. Most normal people in that situation would go: "REALLY!? Why is that?"

You didn't do that, you instead went straight to drawing up your conclusion, just from those 3 words.

Quote (beanbag @ May 5 2023 04:19am)

Imagine accusing others of mindlessly believing something in a thread specifically about Christianity.

Quote (beanbag @ May 5 2023 07:19am)

Imagine accusing others of mindlessly believing something in a thread specifically about Christianity.

Quote (Modulok2405 @ May 5 2023 09:25pm)

Funny how you just described your current reaction. Which conclusion did I draw? Could it be that YOU drew a conclusion about me drawing a conclusion?

Quote (CPK001 @ May 5 2023 02:12pm)

Funny how you just described your current reaction. Which conclusion did I draw? Could it be that YOU drew a conclusion about me drawing a conclusion about you drawing a conclusion?

Quote (CPK001 @ May 5 2023 01:11am)

You say that I am.



Explain.



Simple, win the lottery.



God's will and our free will intertwine. How does this work? God uses our free will to accomplish His will.

An example of this is Genesis 50:19-20

19 But Joseph said to them, “Don’t be afraid. Am I in the place of God? 20 You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, the saving of many lives.

Quote (theCrossbones @ May 5 2023 10:30am)

Yea? So he comes and saves you from making a bad choice. How is that your free will. You should think through that statement more.
Factually you cannot have 100% freewill AND have God respond to your "requests" via prayer.
The term faith disappears if God is changing all of your life path to how it he thinks it should turn out. nice to be complete free from responsibility of your won actions.
Inset "god wills it meme" millions have been murdered with this though process as the back bone.
1. You either have free will and your morality is yours to uphold yourself.
2. Or your a mindless tool of god and have no say in this matter and not good or evil stamp can be placed on you.. A hold harmless agreement.
they cannot intertwine. "god uses our free will to accomplish his will".. LMFAO explain how that works please.

Quote (theCrossbones @ May 5 2023 08:30am)

Yea? So he comes and saves you from making a bad choice.How is that your free will. You should think through that statement more.
Factually you cannot have 100% freewill AND have God respond to your "requests" via prayer.
The term faith disappears if God is changing all of your life path to how it he thinks it should turn out. nice to be complete free from responsibility of your own actions.
Inset "god wills it meme" millions have been murdered with this though process as the back bone.
1. You either have free will and your morality is yours to uphold yourself.
2. Or your a mindless tool of god and have no say in this matter and no good or evil stamp can be placed on you.. A hold harmless agreement.
they cannot intertwine. "god uses our free will to accomplish his will".. LMFAO explain how that works please.

Quote (beanbag @ May 5 2023 08:36am)

3. Use your free will to be a mindless tool. I wonder which of the three options he chose.

Quote (TiStuff @ May 5 2023 02:07pm)

because i have asked for intervention.



you sure your not already a mindless tool and that you only really have two choices in this world, who your going to serve.