yeah even with this L as he made it close and now he has a following. relatively young southern democrat with broad appeal. tall too that always helps lets see if not playing nice with the dnc about campaign funds will cause friction. and as mentioned above they might save him for 2024 and run him with barnie sanders’ granddaughter ocasio-cortez

if they're smart they wont muddy the waters by putting a socialist with a legit fairly mainstream candidate, but they arent smart and that's prob what they'll do. she's a female minority, so she will be used as such. she would get fucking ruined by pence in a vice presidential debate, and if the GOP is smart they'll ask for about 10 of those instead of the 1-2 of them we usually see. Tim kaine in 2016 for so god damn excited it looked like he was on coke and i think that had an effect for sure, pence looked calm because he's probably a vampire.

this is a great point. use them and abuse them until they're extinct.

it will be interesting to see the (D) dynamic over the next two years as the old guard entrenches itself against the growing and popular lefty wing (with the youth and true lefties) with middle-of-the-road candidates like Robert Francis O’Rourke likely to be a chess piece for both sides.

experience won out in the 2012 and 2016 VP debates even though Kaine is a swamp rat he still acted like he never was there before. He’s usually been calm and measured in Virginia so he was clearly given an order by Clinton to attack and that isn’t his strong suit at all lol. Pence had to have been chuckling inside while planning his next political dinner without any females present except his wife.

I remember Paul Ryno waltzing into the 2012 VP debate as the young dynamic GOP wunderkin policy wonk ready to shine (on a side note hahahha good riddance you loser RINO), and Biden just bullied the shit out of him while laughing at him the whole time lol it was such a beatdown

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Watching Kaine crumble in the debate versus mike based god pence was one of the many highlights from the 2016 circus.

I agree with you snipa, he looked like a coke head bouncing off the walls

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I wish Pence wasn't SO much of a zealot with religion. I think he'd make a great president.

He was a great VP pick for Trump - very much the yin to his yang.

rofl k

Great post!

u can tell he was amped up back stage by his team and told to go after Pence. i'm not sure why the dems were thinking incredulity was a winning strategy in 2016 but it failed miserably. feigning surprise whenever they say something gets old fast, u have to challenge ideas that u dont like, not act smugly like they arent worth listening to. Kaine was a bad pick, and he floundered in that debate badly.