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Sep 7 2016 09:03am
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/new-clinton-benghazi-emails-227813

I don't expect this to get any further coverage since it doesn't fit the convenient "Hillary Clinton is baaaaaaaad" or "this raises serious questions about Hillary Clinton's trustworthiness" templates employed by the political press, but Judicial Watch's Benghazi-related fishing expedition turned up absolutely nothing, to the surprise of absolutely no one who has actually followed this. Lazy media personalities breathlessly "reported" on how the FBI recovered thousands of "new" emails that had previously not been submitted to the FBI as part of previous State Department submissions, without somehow making people aware of the fact that most would either: 1) be personal in nature, so they wouldn't be relevant (and crucially wouldn't be subjected to the FOIA), 2) would be copies of previously-seen emails that WERE submitted, 3) completely innocuous, or 4) worse for Republican critics of Clinton, would actually exonerate her from their ridiculous accusations or conspiracy theories.

So the first batch was released. Only 30 were deemed "related" to Benghazi at all, and only one of them was not previously produced. And worse for Clinton's critics: it was a flattering note that was sent to Clinton by a diplomat, praising her for her 2013 testimony before the Senate panel. 2 other emails were deemed "near duplicates." This perfectly encapsulates why this entire thing is just one big nothingburger; the idea that this is some big issue is just laughable.



Tim Kaine would make an excellent president; we'll be very fortunate if we get him as Vice President and then he's able to run for the White House himself. I hope to see him serve as president after Clinton gets to serve for one or two terms; I don't know if we could do better than Tim Kaine as president for the time that we live in.


Not doing anything criminally wrong doesn't mean the topic is a "nothingburger." The bitch lied about what was going on in an effort to draw attention away from Obama's foreign policy right before an election. Not criminal, just a fucking liar about why they attacks happened, and proven a liar by the email from Clinton to Chelsea less than 24 hours into the episode. I mean really, can you actually point out where people think she actually committed a crime related to her lying about Benghazi?
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Sep 7 2016 09:59am
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Not doing anything criminally wrong doesn't mean the topic is a "nothingburger." The bitch lied about what was going on in an effort to draw attention away from Obama's foreign policy right before an election. Not criminal, just a fucking liar about why they attacks happened, and proven a liar by the email from Clinton to Chelsea less than 24 hours into the episode. I mean really, can you actually point out where people think she actually committed a crime related to her lying about Benghazi?


Uh, you can't be for real
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Sep 7 2016 01:18pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Sep 7 2016 10:59am)
Uh, you can't be for real


Why not?
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Sep 7 2016 02:09pm
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/07/politics/benghazi-emails-hillary-clinton/index.html

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Only one email from the batch of 14,900 new documents the FBI found from Hillary Clinton's private server directly references the Benghazi attacks -- and that was a letter of praise from an ambassador, the State Department said Wednesday.
The State Department is reviewing the large trove of documents recovered from Clinton's server and last week said that as many as 30 exchanges could be related to Benghazi. But the department told a federal court Wednesday that all but one had been previously released.

The newly published exchange is an innocuous note from former U.S. ambassador to Brazil Tom Shannon, praising then-Secretary of State Clinton on her performance at a 2013 Senate hearing on the Benghazi attacks.
"Please extend to the Secretary my congratulations for her testimony today before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. I watched with great admiration as she dealt with a tough and personally painful issue in a fair, candid, and determined manner," Shannon wrote in the email sent January 23, 2013, to Cheryl Mills, a top Clinton aide.


Lol, investigation not going how the GOP wanted....they want evidence against her and they're digging up endorsements.

Benghazi as it is now is the largest taxpayer funded GOP candidate fundraiser in the history of the United States.
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/07/politics/benghazi-emails-hillary-clinton/index.html



Lol, investigation not going how the GOP wanted....they want evidence against her and they're digging up endorsements.

Benghazi as it is now is the largest taxpayer funded GOP candidate fundraiser in the history of the United States.


What do you think they want "evidence" of?
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This is how lizard people reproduce. Or she spit out a cough drop, since phlegm doesn't sink like a rock in water.
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Sep 7 2016 02:53pm
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What do you think they want "evidence" of?


Anything that will make her lose esteem with American voters or anything they can turn into a sound byte to solicit more funds by low information voters.

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Sep 7 2016 04:18pm
Quote (Santara @ Sep 7 2016 08:03am)
Not doing anything criminally wrong doesn't mean the topic is a "nothingburger." The bitch lied about what was going on in an effort to draw attention away from Obama's foreign policy right before an election. Not criminal, just a fucking liar about why they attacks happened, and proven a liar by the email from Clinton to Chelsea less than 24 hours into the episode. I mean really, can you actually point out where people think she actually committed a crime related to her lying about Benghazi?


You're still regurgitating talking points that were discredited back in 2013 by several of the Republicans' own investigations. Clinton did not "lie" about "what was going on;" that's not going to magically become the truth no matter how many times you repeat it.

There has been no shortage of crimes that conservatives/wingnuts/cranks have accused Clinton of here, everything from the email setup to faking a concussion to avoid providing testimony to a Senate panel, from specific allegations of coverups to broad allegations of treason. It's no one in the reality-based community's job to separate out their nonsensical claims even if it is to swat them down. For almost exactly 4 years now the GOP and their supporters have been lobbing an endless supply of discredited Bengazhi talking points and CTs at the wall strictly to help them avoid having to do their actual job in Congress.
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Anything that will make her lose esteem with American voters or anything they can turn into a sound byte to solicit more funds by low information voters.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t106/OnlyObvious/gop/NRC_Benghazi_FundRaiser_zpsee3f1649.jpg


Well good, she deserves to lose esteem over Benghazi, because she lied about it to save face for the administration.

Quote (Pollster @ Sep 7 2016 05:18pm)
You're still regurgitating talking points that were discredited back in 2013 by several of the Republicans' own investigations. Clinton did not "lie" about "what was going on;" that's not going to magically become the truth no matter how many times you repeat it.

There has been no shortage of crimes that conservatives/wingnuts/cranks have accused Clinton of here, everything from the email setup to faking a concussion to avoid providing testimony to a Senate panel, from specific allegations of coverups to broad allegations of treason. It's no one in the reality-based community's job to separate out their nonsensical claims even if it is to swat them down. For almost exactly 4 years now the GOP and their supporters have been lobbing an endless supply of discredited Bengazhi talking points and CTs at the wall strictly to help them avoid having to do their actual job in Congress.


They discredited nothing.

Fact: no credible evidence has ever been brought forward that substantiates the position the state dept took 5 days later on the talk show circuit.

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None of the information coming directly from the agents on the ground in Benghazi during the attacks mentioned anything about a video or a protest


Fact: Clinton sent an email to Chelsea Clinton within 24 hours of the attack that attributed it to "al quada like" groups. This fact directly contradicts what Clinton sent Susan Rice to say on the talk show circuit.

Perfectly valid conclusion: Clinton lied. Tell me more about magically saying things hoping they're true, liar.
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