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Nov 1 2016 12:31pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ Oct 31 2016 03:52pm)
Also, just examine the language of the station as it pertains to HRC. They called the FBI's probe of HRC during her criminal investigation a "meeting." They consistently cover what some random racist Trump supporter said at a rally on pretty much every day HRC has a huge negative scandal hit her in the press. Brooke Baldwin is one of the most biased pundits I've seen this election cycle, probably only a couple pegs down from Sean Hannity.


I meant to specifically address this in my first reply.

Sean Hannity is probably the most ridiculously biased guy on a news network. There's simply no comparison between him and Brooke Baldwin.

Michael Hayden had an interesting insight on this a few weeks ago:

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Hayden told Brookings Institute senior fellow Benjamin Wittes in a statement: “Hannity has entered the pantheon of a true propagandist.” Additionally, he wrote, “Fox News has almost entirely jumped the shark. They have given up any semblance of conservatism and focused on an almost visceral hatred of all things Clinton and Obama.” The four-star general—who has served in positions under Presidents Clinton, Bush, and Obama—concluded that Hannity reminds him of a Bulgarian political official he met in the 1980s who, when asked what truth is, told Hayden, “Truth is what serves the party.”
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Nov 1 2016 12:49pm
Quote (duffman316 @ 1 Nov 2016 11:06)
I get supporting hillary but if you're excited about hillary you're probably incredibly dull and boring


People have fooled themselves into thinking she is a great presidential candidate because they have had to constantly compare her next to a disastrous presidential candidate for months now.

Relatively, she looks amazing. On her own, she is an extremely untrutworthy and corrupt presidential candidate.
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Nov 1 2016 12:53pm
She is a piece of shit just like Trump, we are all fucked.
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Nov 1 2016 12:58pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ Nov 1 2016 02:49pm)
People have fooled themselves into thinking she is a great presidential candidate because they have had to constantly compare her next to a disastrous presidential candidate for months now.

Relatively, she looks amazing. On her own, she is an extremely untrutworthy and corrupt presidential candidate.


People have fooled themselves into thinking she isn't a great candidate because of the infiltration of Russia on our democratic process. She's no worse than many.
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Nov 1 2016 12:59pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ Nov 1 2016 12:49pm)
People have fooled themselves into thinking she is a great presidential candidate because they have had to constantly compare her next to a disastrous presidential candidate for months now.

Relatively, she looks amazing. On her own, she is an extremely untrutworthy and corrupt presidential candidate.


she has a MASSIVE amount of her base that wouldn't respond positively to a likability poll. And hardly anyone would respond positively from her base in a trustworthy poll.

So is this just another post where you paint with a broad brush will describing a small minority?
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Nov 1 2016 01:09pm
Quote (Voyaging @ 1 Nov 2016 13:58)
People have fooled themselves into thinking she isn't a great candidate because of the infiltration of Russia on our democratic process. She's no worse than many.


She's earned her untrustworthiness with Americans by repeatedly lieing to us about various topics. That aspect has nothing to do with Russia.

She also thinks she is above the law, doing things that her previous employer repeatedly and explicitly prohibited her to do and behaving extremely careless with classified information.

Her voting record is inconsistent, she represents corporate America over the common man's common interest, she made some very questionable foreign policy decisions as head of state (overthrowing Gaddafi, which she championed), and she continues to propose a very bad foreign policy plan to create a no-fly zone over Syria

In short, she's untrusworthy, inconsistent on the record, crony, and hawkish. She's a bad presidential candidate who is up against one of the worst nominees in history.
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Nov 1 2016 01:18pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Nov 1 2016 01:58pm)
People have fooled themselves into thinking she isn't a great candidate because of the infiltration of Russia on our democratic process. She's no worse than many.


Quote (Voyaging @ Jul 18 2015 07:26am)
I'm seriously so sick of hearing about Trump already; he's a fringe candidate who stands no chance at getting the nomination. He's this year's Ron Paul (gets tons of attention on the internet but loses by a landslide).



These quotes are about as good as each other. A new classic from Voyaging for the end of the election too.
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Nov 1 2016 01:23pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ Nov 1 2016 02:09pm)
Her voting record is inconsistent, she represents corporate America over the common man's common interest, she made some very questionable foreign policy decisions as head of state (overthrowing Gaddafi, which she championed), and she continues to propose a very bad foreign policy plan to create a no-fly zone over Syria


What should we have done in Libya? Allowed the civil war to continue? Allowed thousands of civilians to get slaughtered at the hands of the Gaddafi government?

Do you really think if we had done nothing, things would not be chaotic in Libya right now?

BTW, I replied to you from yesterday post #9469.

This post was edited by IceMage on Nov 1 2016 01:34pm
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Nov 1 2016 01:23pm
Quote (Brian_D @ Nov 1 2016 01:53pm)
She is a piece of shit just like Trump, we are all fucked.


That kind of false equivalency bullshit is the hallmark of uninformed individuals such as yourself.

/JayKwik
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Nov 1 2016 01:25pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Nov 1 2016 01:58pm)
People have fooled themselves into thinking she isn't a great candidate because of the infiltration of Russia on our democratic process. She's no worse than many.



Russia made Hillary set up a private email server in her home ?

Quote (ThatAlex @ Nov 1 2016 02:09pm)
She's earned her untrustworthiness with Americans by repeatedly lieing to us about various topics. That aspect has nothing to do with Russia.

She also thinks she is above the law, doing things that her previous employer repeatedly and explicitly prohibited her to do and behaving extremely careless with classified information.

Her voting record is inconsistent, she represents corporate America over the common man's common interest, she made some very questionable foreign policy decisions as head of state (overthrowing Gaddafi, which she championed), and she continues to propose a very bad foreign policy plan to create a no-fly zone over Syria

In short, she's untrusworthy, inconsistent on the record, crony, and hawkish. She's a bad presidential candidate who is up against one of the worst nominees in history.


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