I agree with you, but the bolded part is the crux. IF a majority of the Republican primary electorate genuinely believes that Trump "won" in 2020 and was cheated out of his victory, then this argument falls apart and turns into a plus for Trump because GOP voters would want to see him get his redemption.

Now, I do not think that the "big lie" really has majority support among the GOP faithful, but I'm not entirely sure about that.

lol no one is going to gamble with a coward like you. what your awful odds on the mueller investigation?? (which lefties like you denied the outcome on!!)

you refused many straight-up bets because you wanted like 3:1 or 4:1 odds in your favor lmfao

yeah the resistance would be 3-fold compared to 2016. mittens would be giving a speech every fucking day the idiot that he is



yeah trump’s influence is simply overstated by his opponents because they need a boogeyman.

republicans, by nature in recent years (post Reagan) are losers. they stink it up all over the place. but they want to lose so they dont care. yeah GWB won twice - but the only winners there were halliburton and lockheed. yeah gop got landslides in 2010 and 2014, got them absolutely fuck all legislation-wise until Trump said tax cuts now in 2017-2018

Trump wanted to win and that ticked off the gop establishment and rino horde

That's about the best summation I've seen so far. ^^

well said. it should also be noted that GWB really only won twice because he got lucky. in 2000, Gore completely shit the bed in an election he never should have lost, coming off of the most profound economic boom in post-war history and all that. in 2004, Bush was still riding that post-9/11 and post-"mission accomplished" high.

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Oh look, yet another incredibly slanted piece from Adam Serwer in which he rails against Republican attempts at changing election laws to their benefit, declares the GOP a threat to democracy and uses this as a justification for his calls on Democrats to pass "structural reforms" which would entrench Democratic power. "The other side is such an existential threat to democracy that we have to contort democracy/rig the system to ensure that they never get into power again."

Also, why is he so in love with his favorite buzzword of "multiracial democracy"? It's prominently featured in every single one of the 17 or 24 or so articles that he has written since the election. Time for the guy to find a new shtick, this one is getting old.

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They dont play fair and never did.

Shut them out forever while we still can.

Trump out on the road supporting the Holocaust denying jew laser genius. Figures

Cry me a river. Just have better ideas and this would be a nonissue. If Republicans can't sell their version of populism to America, why do they deserve to be in power? Likewise, if Democrats can't sell their version of liberalism, why do they deserve to be in power?

With identity politics running rampant in the U.S., and with the electorate being deeply and sharply polarized along demographic lines, the impact of persuasion and ideas is extremely limited. It most definitely is impossible for the GOP to persuade enough people to overcome the Democrats' larger base. Let me put it like this: in an environment with 100% turnout, the GOP would never win a national election again, at least not as long as the coalitions are configured the way they are at the moment.





Btw, fun fact: according to CNN exit poll data, Trump won voters who mostly decided based on the candidates' issue positions by a decent margin in 2020, it's just that he lost the quarter of the electorate which mostly voted on the personal qualities of the candidates by a 2-1 margin:

https://edition.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/national-results
In this sense, one could argue that voters thought Trump had the better ideas than Biden in 2020 - but it was not enough to overcome their rejection of his personality.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 26 2021 09:47pm