Obama served two terms and Clinton was politically dead after losing to the evil orange man. Trump is obviously relevant today, as one of the two major parties is his personality cult, and practically every politically-relevant Republican would endorse him in 2024.

Do you even follow politics?

This post was edited by IceMage on Jun 22 2021 06:02pm

huh?

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-waive-sanctions-firm-ceo-behind-russias-nord-stream-2-pipeline-source-2021-05-19/

The Biden administration waived sanctions on the company behind Russia's Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline to Germany and its chief executive, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said on Wednesday, a move decried by critics of the project in Congress.

A State Department report sent to Congress concluded that Nord Stream 2 AG and its CEO, Matthias Warnig, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, engaged in sanctionable activity. But Blinken immediately waived those sanctions, saying that it was in the U.S. national interest.


somehow it is in our “national interest” to have other nations, in particular one that every media outlet and lefty says is “the enemy” (after Pres Obama said they were a cold war relic!!!!!!), to have advanced gas pipelines, meanwhile we cancel ours and let ours get hacked.

Well, I never said that Stefanik was a great choice without flaws and downsides of her own. When it comes to triangulating between the MAGA base and swing voters, Stefanik is positioned pretty well though. And let's keep in mind that they didnt have an infinite pool of suitable candidates for this position. They needed a woman, from a safe district, who has the seniority, stature and skills to fill this leadership position and who's in Trump's good graces, but also palatable to suburban and swing voters. The list of female Republicans in the House checking all of these boxes prolly isnt very long.

Okay, but that's a different standard than "someone who won't draw any attention to Trump's stolen election nonsense".

because the media and swamp and privileged lefties like you cant help but keep talking about him

most people with a brain say hes toast politically, and best case (for him) should just play kingmaker from afar. your average “Trump supporter” or even non-rabid anti-Trump person here has said this in many forms. but “81+ million Americans” are still content with talking about Trump rather than focusing on the here and now

but by all means keep him in the forefront. he made you eternally butthurt and you went and betrayed all your principles in the process lmfao

This post was edited by excellence on Jun 22 2021 06:09pm

I was panning the widespread sentiment in American politics, particularly on Capitol Hill, that the North Stream 2 pipeline shall be stopped last minute by aggressive sanctions and political pressure.
Biden being smart enough to realize that this would 1. not work and 2. be bad diplomacy speaks for him, not against him.

Even if a bipartisan coalition in Congress thinks otherwise, Biden/the American government was never in a position to decide whether to "let" Russia and Germany build this pipeline.

Trump supporters here, like yourself, want to think he's politically toast because you don't want to have to defend his bullshit anymore. You debased yourselves for years and would prefer not to do it again. But I don't know that there's anyone here outside of the cult who thinks he can't win the Republican primary. And because of the polarization of American politics, anyone who wins a Republican primary can win the general election.

I think Trump made me more principled, to be honest. I'm not willing to entertain anti-democratic forces in America to get some narrow win on abortion or whatever other issue. That probably wasn't true pre-Trump.

evidently we were. sanctions were working. russia is the “Chief aggressor” yet they can build pipelines to germany despite them playing dirty pool (per the media and intel agencies) while the USA cancels pipelines or lets them be hacked.

so “russia is a big problem” per the lefties/intel agencies/media whatever. the Trump admin sanctions the daylights out of them; and then the same politicians who say “russia is a big problem” waive the sanctions. how does this work?

an aside - i dont care about the russia-germany pipeline.



wrong. most of us said he lost because he flopped on covid. he could have sold Trump masks and afk’d and won in a landslide. he chose not to and thus he lost.

imagine if the universe turns again and somehow he wins again in 2024. you will probably fully transition on every level in a state of utter rage at that point lmao!!! anti-democratic you voted for a fucking swamp demon segregationist and a crooked cop dont delude yourself

you want to keep it running because your entire existence is based on opposing President Donald Trump lmfao. #resistance is your only principle now

I didnt say "not draw any attention to Trump's lie", I said "draw as little attention to it as possible". Which is a significantly weaker standard, and one that Stefanik meets quite well.


They can ignore these parts and just talk about their agreement with Trump's America First platform. Similarly, when asked by the media about their stance on Trump's claims of election fraud in 2020, they can simply say that no matter what happened in the past, they are looking forward and are laser-focused on their 2022 race. If probed even more, they can go along the lines of "we should never have lost in 2020, but the circumstances were bad... which is why I am determined to right this historical wrong in the upcoming election and return power into the hands of patriotic, devout, common-sense Americans and away from the radical Democrats and their socialist encroachment". Attacking their opponent form there is easy.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 22 2021 06:27pm

No, they were not. That's why the construction of the pipeline progressed even amidst the toughest sanctions, to the point where it was almost finished when Biden took office, leaving him with a no win situation. The best he could achieve was currying some diplomatic favor with a key ally by waiving sanctions that an overzealous Congress had passed, and he did exactly that.

-> sleepy man good.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 22 2021 06:29pm