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maybe youre onto something...

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Might be the smartest thing you've ever said.
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Might be the smartest thing you've ever said.


he thinks that stuff is a gotcha?
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Mar 12 2024 10:27pm
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The likelihood of deaths tracking linearly without any sort of significant variation is extraordinarily unlikely. The fact that women and child deaths aren't correlated implies that they don't live in the same residential buildings, which they do. The fact that men and women are negatively correlated implies that Israel is intentionally seeking out women on days where men aren't dying.

I don't know how many people have died; all I can say is that the numbers Hamas is quoting are made up.


What is the standard variation in deaths for what is happening in Gaza?

Why would the deaths of women and children be correlated in daily reports? That assumes deaths are being reported as they happen and not back logged or facing any number of other logistical hurdles in reporting which they certainly would be.

Israel is bombing residential buildings all day while the men hide in tunnels, why wouldn't the deaths be negatively correlated between men and women? Not to mention the absolutely insane demographics of Gaza to begin with.



^ can you see the difference between these figures?

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Quote (zorzin @ Mar 12 2024 05:54pm)
300k Iraqi civilians died in the Iraq war. You comparing yourself to uncle sam does you no favors here.

Again I understand that civies are collateral damage in a war but its they way you kill them that's the problem. Calling innocent women and children hamastinians and subhumans is barbaric and its no better when we did the same Overseas.

I'm willing to entertain you estimate of 16k dead hamas, do you have a source? I get that it's hard to prove but if there's an article from someone who knows what they're talking about I'll atleast read it.


Do you reject that 100% or close to 100% of the Gaza population are related to Hamas ?
Do you acknowledge that there is Hamas the movement and Hamas the Organization ? Do you acknowledge that Hamas the movement has been working its way into schools, daycare etc ?
From where I stand given the reports that close to 100% of the houses in Gaza includes anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli propaganda material they are all (or close to all) are in fact hamastinians.

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300k Iraqi civilians died in the Iraq war. You comparing yourself to uncle sam does you no favors here.

Again I understand that civies are collateral damage in a war but its they way you kill them that's the problem. Calling innocent women and children hamastinians and subhumans is barbaric and its no better when we did the same Overseas.

I'm willing to entertain you estimate of 16k dead hamas, do you have a source? I get that it's hard to prove but if there's an article from someone who knows what they're talking about I'll atleast read it.


The way we are killing them? Israel do not target civilians.
These are the order that goes down from the government and these are the order that go down from chief of staff.
IDF is a source the proven its capable of delivering accurate information even if the information doesnt do it a favor

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What is the standard variation in deaths for what is happening in Gaza?

Why would the deaths of women and children be correlated in daily reports? That assumes deaths are being reported as they happen and not back logged or facing any number of other logistical hurdles in reporting which they certainly would be.

Israel is bombing residential buildings all day while the men hide in tunnels, why wouldn't the deaths be negatively correlated between men and women? Not to mention the absolutely insane demographics of Gaza to begin with.

https://i.imgur.com/ojfzRPf.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/BtCXHx9.jpeg
^ can you see the difference between these figures?


You imply as if Israel randomly drop bombs
Which is a complete lie.
The air force in the phase of the war work with the forces on ground which means whenever there is a resistance from a building the building falls on the resistance which minimize IDF casualties and lower the risk the forces and its also 1000% legal according to international law.

Furthermore this can end tomorrow return the hostages and surrender

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Quote (Many_Names @ Mar 13 2024 06:07am)
You imply as if Israel randomly drop bombs
Which is a complete lie.
The air force in the phase of the war work with the forces on ground which means whenever there is a resistance from a building the building falls on the resistance which minimize IDF casualties and lower the risk the forces and its also 1000% legal according to international law.

Furthermore this can end tomorrow return the hostages and surrender

Of course it isn't random, if it was they wouldn't be completely destroying everything, it is being done intentionally which is much worse but considering the shithole you live in I'm not surprised you have a tenous grasp on morality. I don't blame you, I blame your masters in the US who give your country the power that enables it to behave this way without being deleted. Just find it annoying when people don't train their pets.
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What is the standard variation in deaths for what is happening in Gaza?

Why would the deaths of women and children be correlated in daily reports? That assumes deaths are being reported as they happen and not back logged or facing any number of other logistical hurdles in reporting which they certainly would be.

Israel is bombing residential buildings all day while the men hide in tunnels,why wouldn't the deaths be negatively correlated between men and women? Not to mention the absolutely insane demographics of Gaza to begin with.

https://i.imgur.com/ojfzRPf.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/BtCXHx9.jpeg
^ can you see the difference between these figures?


So they're digging women and children out of the rubble at the same time, but they're not counting them simultaneously? It shouldn't matter if they're weeks delayed, the women and children live in the same residential units. The fact that there is no correlation between women and children deaths is a bright red flag.

You're misunderstanding what the negative correlation implies. On days where Israeli is attacking (targeting fighters), you'd expect to see a positive correlation between men killed and non-combatants. The reasoning is simple, when Israel is trying to kill fighters, there are going to also be incidental deaths. That isn't what the Hamas-published numbers suggest. They imply that on days where fewer men are killed (than normal), more women are killed instead. That makes sense only if Israel is intentionally trying to kill non-combatants and not kill Hamas men.

I appreciate your acknowledgement (bold) that "men" and "fighters" are synonymous, i.e. all Gazan men are Hamas.

This post was edited by bogie160 on Mar 13 2024 10:06am
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Mar 13 2024 10:16am
Same kids in here crying about Gazan casualties are the same ones cheering as Russia attack residential buildings with missiles.

Can't make that kind of hypocrisy and bias up.
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