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Quote (theCrossbones @ Aug 12 2022 05:20pm)



All the trump lovers are waiting for faux news to give them talking points

Or pretending they don’t refresh Pards repeatedly waiting for someone to post in a thread

This post was edited by SharpNips on Aug 12 2022 02:25pm
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Quote (Surfpunk @ Aug 12 2022 02:53pm)
https://www.lawfareblog.com/mar-lago-raid-warrant-unsealed

Edit: Some crickets in here. Are the MAGA people still waiting to be told how they're supposed to feel about this?


I'm sure they are glued to the TV watching fox and oan claim it's a hoax but the unsealed document proves otherwise so it's just confused looks and extra glasses of whiskey. Probably some gun cleaning by the sound of things too.
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Quote (SharpNips @ Aug 12 2022 04:24pm)
All the trump lovers are waiting for faux news to give them talking points

Or pretending they don’t refresh Pards repeatedly waiting for someone to post in a thread


Donny's never at fault, and is always the victim.
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Quote (said_aouita @ Aug 12 2022 01:27pm)
Donny's never at fault, and is always the victim.


the greatest and strongest victim ever..
so much winning. the winning being a traitor never stops.
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Quote (SharpNips @ 12 Aug 2022 14:47)
It motivates his base and alienates traditional republicans. He needs them more than he needs his base that would vote for him even if he died.

The bulk of traditional or mainstream Republicans (those who fall between the hardcore MAGA-acolytes like Jim Jordan/MTG and the Cheney/Kinzinger NeverTrumpers) have sided with Trump on this one and publicly come out in his defense. (Whether folks like McConnell, Pence or Hayley really believe what they're saying or just cynically try to exploit this story to rile up the base even further, ahead of the midterms, is a different story.)



Quote (RedFromWinter @ 12 Aug 2022 15:00)
This motivates much more than his regular base and will accelerate the dwindling of non-Trump Republicans like Liz Cheney. I don't think he needs those types, especially when there is opportunity to pickup votes from those frustrated with Brandon


Quote (SharpNips @ 12 Aug 2022 16:22)
For sure

All I’m saying is this latest news cycle isn’t gaining him (trump) votes as some people have referenced

Imo

With regard to a general election, this will not win Trump many new voters in the middle, but it could help him at the margins by bringing some wavering, Trump-sceptic Republican voters back into his fold - a group with which he has shown some weakness in both 2016 and 2020.

Where it tremendously helps him is with regard to a potential primary for the presidential nomination. This investigation gives him a ton of spotlight, allows him to portray himself as the victim of a rigged witch hunt, and it makes his radical plans for cleaning house upon coming back to power seem more justified and palatable to moderate Republicans. If this investigation ends up with a conviction of Trump, DeSantis is the big winner. If it does not (which seems far more likely), then whatever underdog chance DeSantis had of wresting the nomination from Trump goes down even further.

With regard to the midterms, it's imho hard to tell what the political implication of this will be. On the one hand, it amps up Republican voters even more, but on the other hand, it puts Trump back into the spotlight. Every news cycle dominated by Trump rather than by the shortcomings of the Biden admin is a good news cycle for Democrats. Imho, it would be foolish to try predict which of these counteracting effects will be stronger in the end.

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Quote (SharpNips @ Aug 12 2022 03:24pm)
All the trump lovers are waiting for faux news to give them talking points

Or pretending they don’t refresh Pards repeatedly waiting for someone to post in a thread


They've already given them. The major talking point is the new precedent this sets. It has little to do with Trump specifically unless you riding his hard on. The Republicans surely won't resort to the same antics when the pendulum swings their way.

I'm of the camp why are we stopping with Trump? Let's clean up all these corrupt politicians and Deep State goofs.
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Aug 12 2022 02:59pm
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The Espionage Act was passed in 1917 during a particularly dark time in our nation's history. It's been used almost exclusively to charge people convicted of spying on the United States in support of the Soviet Union. It would be an enormous overreach to charge Trump with spying unless there was documented proof of him trying to sell said secrets to another country.
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So 11 sets of classified documents he should not have had.

What’s the best case scenario for him?

Didn’t even look through this thread other than the last page but hopefully nobody here is dumb enough to defend him.

It’s not up for debate whether or not what he did was legal. Definitely wasn’t.

This post was edited by Acuity on Aug 12 2022 03:02pm
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lol "left-wing democrats are not fascists how dare you !!!"

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