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Oct 26 2020 04:00pm
Quote (thundercock @ Oct 26 2020 04:54pm)
Sure, I know the difference. When the GOP does it, it's fine. When Dems do it, it's the end of the world.


Is giving your political allies positions of power within your administration a bad thing? I don't recall that ever being a thing.

Accepting millions of dollars from private parties in return for political favors is graft and has been at the core of political corruption for thousands of years.
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Oct 26 2020 04:15pm
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Is giving your political allies positions of power within your administration a bad thing? I don't recall that ever being a thing.

Accepting millions of dollars from private parties in return for political favors is graft and has been at the core of political corruption for thousands of years.


Giving political positions like ambassadorships as favors to donors is the accepted and normal, non-corrupt way of rewarding political allies- it doesn't grant them any actual political favors or go against our nation's interests. That's for the donors you just want to reward, whereas giving departmental positions is actually asking something from them, not giving it to them. That's the system our country was founded on, and indeed the spoils system was vastly more cronyist until the Pendleton Act of 1883 at least asked for apolitical merit for office rather than just patronage- and only for the bureaucratic service, not ambassadorships / heads of departments / etc.

If a rancher goes out into his field and sets M44s to kill coyotes, that's the normal, accepted and lawful way to use cyanide to kill living creatures. If an investment banker pours cyanide into his wife's morning tea, that's not the same thing and you can't draw stupid comparisons between the two, because its not even remotely comparable.

Every single lens- moral, ethical, legal, political, media, common knowledge, etc- distinguishes between "taking personal bribes" and "getting campaign donations". Its not some subtle understanding that should require explanation
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Oct 26 2020 04:48pm
https://www.foxnews.com/world/vladimir-putin-defends-hunter-bidens-business-dealings.amp

Even Putin calls bullshit lol. And you know there is no love for the Biden's there.
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Oct 26 2020 04:49pm
...oh yea, well Trump took a picture with Jeffery Epstein at a party CHECKMATE CONSERVASHITS

Quote (thundercock @ Oct 26 2020 04:54pm)
Sure, I know the difference. When the GOP does it, it's fine. When Dems do it, it's the end of the world.


No. Its only the end of the world when conservatives don't do it ie gang raper Brett Kavanaugh

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Oct 26 2020 04:51pm
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Oct 26 2020 04:52pm
Quote (Skinned @ Oct 26 2020 06:48pm)
https://www.foxnews.com/world/vladimir-putin-defends-hunter-bidens-business-dealings.amp

Even Putin calls bullshit lol. And you know there is no love for the Biden's there.


Putin's aware of it because his intelligence agencies are trying to help the effort.

Sort of hilarious though to see him throw cold water on it... his last chance to humiliate Donald again before this is all over.

This post was edited by IceMage on Oct 26 2020 04:53pm
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Quote (Skinned @ Oct 26 2020 06:48pm)
https://www.foxnews.com/world/vladimir-putin-defends-hunter-bidens-business-dealings.amp

Even Putin calls bullshit lol. And you know there is no love for the Biden's there.


If the president confirms it, it's Russian disinfo. If he denies it, it's confirmation that it's false.

Trump has ruined you guys intellectually.
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Oct 26 2020 07:12pm
Quote (Skinned @ Oct 26 2020 05:48pm)
https://www.foxnews.com/world/vladimir-putin-defends-hunter-bidens-business-dealings.amp

Even Putin calls bullshit lol. And you know there is no love for the Biden's there.


i see what hes doing.. the left hate the russian boogeyman so much, that if the end game boss says "nah its cool"

the left will omgogmg, putin think its good?! it must be bad! vote trump!

well played comrade
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Oct 26 2020 07:28pm
Quote (Skinned @ 26 Oct 2020 18:48)
https://www.foxnews.com/world/vladimir-putin-defends-hunter-bidens-business-dealings.amp

Even Putin calls bullshit lol. And you know there is no love for the Biden's there.


Quote (IceMage @ 26 Oct 2020 18:52)
Putin's aware of it because his intelligence agencies are trying to help the effort.

Sort of hilarious though to see him throw cold water on it... his last chance to humiliate Donald again before this is all over.

our resident privileged lefties love putin now

Quote (bogie160 @ 26 Oct 2020 21:05)
If the president confirms it, it's Russian disinfo. If he denies it, it's confirmation that it's false.

Trump has ruined you guys intellectually.

wasn’t much to ruin but yeah lol

This post was edited by excellence on Oct 26 2020 07:29pm
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Oct 26 2020 07:32pm
Quote (excellence @ Oct 26 2020 09:28pm)
our resident privileged lefties love putin now


Pointing out that Putin's knowledge comes from an active disinformation campaign against Joe Biden, or pointing to the fact that he's getting one last humiliating shot in against Trump, is not praise of Putin. It's an indictment of him, and the American president who has never said a cross word about him.
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Oct 26 2020 07:36pm
did Trump piss Putin off when he gave all those weapons to Ukraine including tank busting missiles, or does he still favour Trump in spite of this vs. the demmy's.

at the time I saw that as a possible pivot point, but it's been a while since
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