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Mar 14 2020 01:59pm
Quote (balrog66 @ Mar 14 2020 03:56pm)
Except it doesn't, as young people without comorbidities can still get severely sick and even die.


All comes down to banana and kiwi intake for that.
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Except it doesn't, as young people without comorbidities can still get severely sick and even die.


There's a 30-year old in MN with no known underlying preconditions that is in critical condition from it.
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There's a 30-year old in MN with no known underlying preconditions that is in critical condition from it.


There's a 16yo here in Breda: https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/nederland/artikel/5056536/sehraz-breda-coronavirus-16-intensive-care-besmet-covid19
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Define a ton, I picked up two big packs from Sam's club like a week or two ago since I was out. Stocked the upstairs and downstairs bathroom closets.


Referring to panic buying. Enough to empty shelves.
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Mar 14 2020 02:29pm
Quote (balrog66 @ Mar 14 2020 07:56pm)
Except it doesn't, as young people without comorbidities can still get severely sick and even die.


Quote (Surfpunk @ Mar 14 2020 08:02pm)
There's a 30-year old in MN with no known underlying preconditions that is in critical condition from it.


The Chinese doctor that whistleblew on the outbreak back in December and died from the virus was mid 30s with no underlying conditions, but it is theoreticised that this was due to exposure from many infected patients, leading to a concentration of the virus in his system that is uncommon. I suspect this could also apply to other cases where they had consistent contact with an infected, the most likely scenario being a close family member.

There's also people out there with undiagnosed health conditions that will be relatively low in number but will skew mortality rates (especially in the small sample sizes that we have so far). Any undiagnosed respiratory or heart problem would significantly increase the chance of dying from a severe flu type illness - Asthma and people with resting heart rates over 80 could easily go undetected for example.
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The Chinese doctor that whistleblew on the outbreak back in December and died from the virus was mid 30s with no underlying conditions, but it is theoreticised that this was due to exposure from many infected patients, leading to a concentration of the virus in his system that is uncommon. I suspect this could also apply to other cases where they had consistent contact with an infected, the most likely scenario being a close family member.

There's also people out there with undiagnosed health conditions that will be relatively low in number but will skew mortality rates (especially in the small sample sizes that we have so far). Any undiagnosed respiratory or heart problem would significantly increase the chance of dying from a severe flu type illness - Asthma and people with resting heart rates over 80 could easily go undetected for example.


This seems the most plausbile explanation. But we'll have to wait and see how the number of young, healthy patients with a severe progress of the disease looks like in a week or two. Atm, the sample size for cases like that seems too small to me.

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Good article on the vast differences in approach of European countries to that of the UK. We are the only country on the planet willingly letting the virus infect everyone for 'herd immunity'. Can't help but feel it's a strategy of putting GDP over people's lives.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51892402
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Mar 14 2020 02:58pm
An almost complete shut down here in Spain. President Sánchez has declared the State of Alarm and his government now takes over all regional authorities in regards to health services, security, defense, transportation and public services.

All citizens are to remain home at all times, only being allowed to leave their homes to: buy food or medicine, get money the bank, walk their pets, go to a healthcare center or provide assistance to a vulnerable or incapacitated citizen.

Any citizen disobeying the curfew or caught out of home for an unjustified reason will be "severely fined".

All businesses that attend customers must shut down, except supermarkets, pharmacies and health care centers. Public transportation will be reduced by 60%, and all business owners are to enforce work from home.

Religious centers will be allowed to open, and scheduled celebrations like weddings, baptisms, etc, will be able to take place, so long as they are staged somewhere that allows a minimum distance of one meter between attendees.

All public holiday celebrations are cancelled.

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Mar 14 2020 03:07pm
Schools closed next week here. Dude came back from Disneyworld and tested positive. Had connecting flight 8miles from me. :(
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Quote (dro94 @ 14 Mar 2020 21:55)
Good article on the vast differences in approach of European countries to that of the UK. We are the only country on the planet willingly letting the virus infect everyone for 'herd immunity'. Can't help but feel it's a strategy of putting GDP over people's lives.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51892402


That's not inherently bad. Protecting the economy also saves lives and benefits society. Leaders should be utilitarian, and it comes down to what information they have in order to make the calculations to go for a decision.

Lots of people have already lost their jobs here, and it's only day zero of the national quarantine... the economy is going to take a massive blow that will have terrible repercussions on millions of families.
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