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Nov 7 2018 08:35am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 7 2018 09:28am)
Call me silly, but I would rate Trump's chances of being reelected in 2020 slightly higher today than before the midterms.


I agree.
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Nov 7 2018 08:36am
Quote (IceMage @ 7 Nov 2018 15:35)
I agree.


On the Black = silly part, or on Trump's chances? ;)

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Nov 7 2018 08:36am
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I agree.


You seem to be a reasonable person (i'm serious) - Who do you think they'll run in 2020?

I'm very curious to see who they trot out. It seems like a wide open field.
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Nov 7 2018 08:41am
Quote (IceMage @ 7 Nov 2018 14:54)


well say about him what you will, but he sure knows how to pick a weak opponent. rooting for the corrupt and uninspiring democratic establishment is certainly the republicans' most promising approach for 2020...
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Nov 7 2018 08:46am
Quote (djman72 @ 7 Nov 2018 15:34)
You can read every Vox and HuffPo article you want. That doesn't change the fact that your comprehension and critical thinking skills are on par with a potato. When I read about France it's all stabbings and acid attacks..... doesn't make it the norm.
Did you saw the potato?


The small construction you did in your skimpy mind. Better to ignore randoms like you.
Im reading right, left, and centrist papers. bb
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Nov 7 2018 08:49am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 7 2018 08:32am)
Agreed. However, I think that the GOP got away with a black eye tonight. The way they were melting in the suburbs and the way progressive candidates were inching closer than ever before to winning in Texas, Florida and Georgia, this should really be a wake-up call for all Republicans, Trump included. Going forward, they HAVE to stop the bleeding in the suburbs, and they have to close the fundraising gap again.

But as I wrote yesterday, I think that with Trump in the WH, the GOP will be actually doing better in presidential years than off-years, so time will tell.


I think they got a black eye, but it seemed to be more in the midwest and less on the battleground states and texas. Democrats pumped ludicrous amounts of resources into contesting those failed races and were running against unpopular candidates. For human slug Ted Cruz to fend off a charismatic guy with the biggest war chest in the country shows that Texas is impregnable. But they lost a ton of ground in the midwest at the same time, lots of house seats and gubernatorial races and state legislatures.

Its probably better for the republicans this way, since it sets up favorable grounds for 2020 in both the senate and presidential elections and they have the same chance in the house as ever. When it comes to battlegrounds in the electoral college, they'd be much happier to hang onto Florida than Wisconsin.
so yeah I echo you and Icemage in saying Trumps reelection odds probably went up even with the republican loss

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Nov 7 2018 08:51am
Quote (djman72 @ Nov 7 2018 09:36am)
You seem to be a reasonable person (i'm serious) - Who do you think they'll run in 2020?

I'm very curious to see who they trot out. It seems like a wide open field.


They'll run another shrill, unlikable candidate like Warren and lose again.
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Nov 7 2018 08:56am
worth pointing out that democrats did pass amendment 4 in Florida which restores voting rights to felons, which might be as many as 1 million floridians, up to 5% of black floridians included, and felons largely vote democratic. But even given the ability to vote, they largely don't vote. So I don't know what difference that could make in 2020
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Nov 7 2018 08:58am
Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 7 2018 08:56am)
worth pointing out that democrats did pass amendment 4 in Florida which restores voting rights to felons, which might be as many as 1 million floridians, up to 5% of black floridians included, and felons largely vote democratic. But even given the ability to vote, they largely don't vote. So I don't know what difference that could make in 2020


i think that it's somewhere between % we see in states where they can vote and always have been able to, and a wave. in the first few elections i expect it to be a lot, 2020 especially. then it will quickly taper off. not a good electoral hurdle for trump to be sure, that state is always the slimmest of margins.
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Nov 7 2018 09:01am
Quote (Goomshill @ 7 Nov 2018 15:56)
worth pointing out that democrats did pass amendment 4 in Florida which restores voting rights to felons, which might be as many as 1 million floridians, up to 5% of black floridians included, and felons largely vote democratic. But even given the ability to vote, they largely don't vote. So I don't know what difference that could make in 2020


estimates are that it could add about 100k net votes to the democrats, or slightly more than that. given how tight races in florida tend to be, this could have huge implications.
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