They prolly avoid it after Apples' warnings and hatred.

dropped bioshock half way through

add + long games aren't a good mix

You continually and ridiculously call things like voluntary arrangements 'slavery', and inequality 'theft' without substantiation. Calling them bad words doesn't actually make it true.
When two people freely agree to work together for mutual benefit thats a great thing. Thats not theft or slavery. Its making their lives better.
Equality of possessions and the elimination of profits are both impossible and terrible goals not consistent with human flourishing.


You talk about history in a smug manner.. yet its beyond a doubt conclusively on my side.
Capitalism has been the driving force in increasing the well being of people around the planet. While your economic views have brought death, starvation, destruction, poverty and oppression, in literal real-life terms. Not make believe "I don't like it so its slavery" garbled nonsense.

Seriously I would recommend any beginners economics class or textbook to start getting a grasp on how completely ridiculous and unfounded your claims are.

illusion of choice due to necessity of work to survive, sharper concentrations of wealth and buying power leading to tyranny, workplace health and safety measures discarded in favour of better profit margins, environment discarded for better profit margins. these things are promised by anarcho-capitalism, it doesn't take much foresight to see this and its consequences. i'm not expecting someone who can't grasp the concept of equity to care about equality or the elimination of class, but you can surely see how unregulated capitalism magnifies divisions between who has and who doesn't.
let's call a spade a spade here, you're an individual anarchist if anything, and you only want these conditions out of your own selfishness.

profit is the same mechanism as taxation, taking from a person what he laboured for. theft.


never called for the equality of possessions btw



how on earth is history possibly on the side of unregulated capitalism? it's clear as day the working peoples have never tolerated it because it is characterized by all those things you just mentioned. yes it's good for building industry quickly, on the backs of the exploited and the state.


i'm curious what your economic study credentials are. not trying to be hostile with that ask, you keep telling me to take economics classes and claiming to be an authority on economic sensibility, i have to know.

maybe you spent the last hour writing out a well reasoned response but i gotta go sleeperino.

Greatest threats to Earth obviously not Iran or North Korea.

What do you make of the 'well Iran aren't rational actors so it's not the same as Russia bla bla religion bla bla' argument? I'm inclined to not buy it(especially with the oft-cited implication that this requires pre-emptive attack) but am not that deeply informed about Iranian politics. Perhaps it'd be best to take this to another thread tho

Would rational actors have so many nuclear missiles to begin with?

Can a super ideological and very religious nation be described as a rational actor? It seems like in the US people embrace the irrational more than most other places.

What about Russia? You have an illiberal autocratic state with secret police, no individual rights, no political opposition is permitted in faux elections. They are running out of money, becoming more and more belligerent, and as they become more desperate they are clinging to jingoism and fascist values. Are they a rational actor?

Iran is just trying to produce electricity to have it on 24 hours a day. Iraq hasn't had electricity throughout the country since Saddam was in power They would like to buy some. Trade would good for both of them, and would curb extremism.

I bet you are like most complacent and detached Americans (me included lol) who rarely lose power and when you do you get pissed off about it if it is off for more than 40 minutes.

But I would say that very few states can be described as rational.

We need to leave Iran alone and stop being resentful about them controlling their own system. That is what is irrational. It is like a war on autonomy, which is one of the principles of Democracy to begin with.

This post was edited by Skinned on Aug 4 2015 12:46pm

Agreed, it's just sad and frankly terrifying that the most powerful military country on earth makes use of its immense power of destruction so liberally and under moral pretenses which a good portion of the country swallows hook, line and sinker, across the political spectrum.