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Jun 3 2021 05:26pm
Quote (IceMage @ 4 Jun 2021 00:38)
There's also a certain level of denialism going on here... it's been reported by Maggie Haberman and National Review's Charles Cooke that Trump believes he will be reinstated as president by August. His former NSA just said we should have a Myanmar type coup, where hundreds of people have been killed.

And you Trump supporting guys are all like "stop obsessing... get over your TDS". It's like you guys are stuck in some fog where you can't perceive reality.

You are the one who's seriously believing that Trump could successfully get back into office in 2024 in spite of losing the election because state-level Republicans blatantly steal it for him.

I really dont mean this is as personal attack or insult, but anyone entertaining something batshit crazy like that (in particular that the other 50+x% of the country would just suck it up) as a serious possibility should not lecture others on a warped perception of reality. :rolleyes:
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Jun 3 2021 05:32pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 3 2021 07:26pm)
You are the one who's seriously believing that Trump could successfully get back into office in 2024 in spite of losing the election because state-level Republicans blatantly steal it for him.

I really dont mean this is as personal attack or insult, but anyone entertaining something batshit crazy like that (in particular that the other 50+x% of the country would just suck it up) as a serious possibility should not lecture others on a warped perception of reality. :rolleyes:


why else would states enact over 100 local state laws to change/restrict voting?

save this post for 2022 when the impact is shown and then again for 2024 when republican run legislatures start to throw out groups of voting because somebody got a ketchup smear on 1 ballot.
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Jun 3 2021 05:40pm
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why else would states enact over 100 local state laws to change/restrict voting?

save this post for 2022 when the impact is shown and then again for 2024 when republican run legislatures start to throw out groups of voting because somebody got a ketchup smear on 1 ballot.



Hell yes, about time someone takes action on the voting system. It’s been a joke before bush and gores little hissy fit.
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Jun 3 2021 05:42pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 3 Jun 2021 19:26)
You are the one who's seriously believing that Trump could successfully get back into office in 2024 in spite of losing the election because state-level Republicans blatantly steal it for him.

I really dont mean this is as personal attack or insult, but anyone entertaining something batshit crazy like that (in particular that the other 50+x% of the country would just suck it up) as a serious possibility should not lecture others on a warped perception of reality. :rolleyes:

>they didnt “steal it” for him when he was in office, because it was a foolish notion and they wanted his opponent to win anyway, but they will decide to change course all of a sudden and figure out how to “steal it” for him when he isnt in office

some really will do anything to not discuss what’s actually going on nowadays
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Jun 3 2021 05:46pm
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why else would states enact over 100 local state laws to change/restrict voting?

Because ballot harvesting, the expansion of mail-in voting in the wake of covid and so on and forth have proven beneficial to the Dems. So GOP state legislatures try to roll these things back where they can.

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save this post for 2022 when the impact is shown and then again for 2024 when republican run legislatures start to throw out groups of voting because somebody got a ketchup smear on 1 ballot.

That would suck, but still be nowhere near the level of crazy that IceMage was talking about, namely Republicans blatantly refusing to certify election results and, quote, "easily get Trump back into the WH" this way.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 3 2021 05:49pm
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Quote (excellence @ Jun 3 2021 07:42pm)
>they didnt “steal it” for him when he was in office, because it was a foolish notion and they wanted his opponent to win anyway, but they will decide to change course all of a sudden and figure out how to “steal it” for him when he isnt in office

some really will do anything to not discuss what’s actually going on nowadays
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i discuss more what is going on than you do and actual have an understanding that trump and his admin left time bombs for biden to deal with.

you and the rest of the right wing trump dick huggers on this sf think that the following just magically happened because biden took office rather than understanding that the shit that trump did was just smoke and mirrors.

1. inflation - spending bill shouldnt be 6 trillion, however, trump pushed for lower rates his entire 4 term and printed money during economic expansion - of course there would be inflation after his term.
2. oil prices - cause biden is in charge of the specific supply of oil, none of trump's permits EO's on new pipelines had any impact on the price of oil in the US. the arguments you idiots make is null.
3. surge of migrants - already posted the surge was 100% from 2018 to 2019 and has continued - this was still happening under trump, didnt see you post about it once.
4. unrest in the middle east - all trump did was agitate the middle east and it blew up in his face.

ill judge biden on how he cleans up these messes but you seriously have something wrong with you if you believe that these things occurred because biden took office. if thats the case, i have a pet rock id like to sell you.

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Jun 3 2021 06:06pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 3 2021 07:46pm)
Because ballot harvesting, the expansion of mail-in voting in the wake of covid and so on and forth have proven beneficial to the Dems. So GOP state legislatures try to roll these things back where they can.


That would suck, but still be nowhere near the level of crazy that IceMage was talking about, namely Republicans blatantly refusing to certify election results and, quote, "easily get Trump back into the WH" this way.


trump wont be "reinstated" into the wh. if he runs in 2024 then its highly likely these measures will put him back into office.

they are just using his lie that there was election fraud (in states where republican senators and trump won) as justification to for shitty voter supression laws to set up this shit in the future regardless if its trump or another nominee on the ballot.

like i said, we'll see in 2024 and we'll circle back to see if maga idiots go full retard.
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Jun 3 2021 06:08pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 3 2021 07:26pm)
You are the one who's seriously believing that Trump could successfully get back into office in 2024 in spite of losing the election because state-level Republicans blatantly steal it for him.

I really dont mean this is as personal attack or insult, but anyone entertaining something batshit crazy like that (in particular that the other 50+x% of the country would just suck it up) as a serious possibility should not lecture others on a warped perception of reality. :rolleyes:


All it would take is a close election, one state controlled by Republicans refusing to confirm Biden's win there, and a Republican controlled Congress votes on who becomes president.

That you think this is some TDS conspiracy theory, given everything that has happened since Trump lost in 2020, shows me that you are completely denying reality. It's blatantly obvious that this is a real possibility.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 3 2021 07:46pm)
That would suck, but still be nowhere near the level of crazy that IceMage was talking about, namely Republicans blatantly refusing to certify election results and, quote, "easily get Trump back into the WH" this way.


That's not what my sentence was trying to convey. Trump has a good chance to get back in the White House in 2024, and it'll either happen by getting legitimately elected or having the election stolen by his cultists.
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Jun 3 2021 06:24pm
I'm trying to figure out, what evidence could there be that the election might be stolen in 2024 by Republicans? What would it look like? Do you expect Republicans to come out and say, "sure, if Trump loses in 2024 and it's a close election, we'll steal it for him"? And if they don't say that, it's crazy to think they would replay 2020, except this time there will be a state that refuses to certify Biden's win? And then Republicans in Congress vote for who becomes president, and they obviously choose the guy they've been campaigning for the last year?

There doesn't need to be some vast, complex operation here. Loony Republicans in a state Biden won refuse to certify, and that's game over. Trump gets elected, the American experiment is permanently disfigured, if not killed.
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Jun 3 2021 06:28pm
Quote (IceMage @ 4 Jun 2021 02:08)
All it would take is a close election, one state controlled by Republicans refusing to confirm Biden's win there, and a Republican controlled Congress votes on who becomes president.

That you think this is some TDS conspiracy theory, given everything that has happened since Trump lost in 2020, shows me that you are completely denying reality. It's blatantly obvious that this is a real possibility.

If Trump is indeed the nominee again, it will most likely end in a blowout rather than a close election. It took a historical GOP edge in the electoral college to make the 2020 election somewhat close. (Trump needed a uniform swing of 0.63% to reach an electoral college tie which would have ended with him or Pence as president; 1.16% for an outright Trump win.)

After all the shit Trump has pulled since then, I really dont see him being as strong in 2024. After the storming of the Capitol, he should be even more toxic to virtually all moderates and independents, and also to a non-negligible segment of Republicans. The only way I could see a Biden/Trump rematch in 2024 being close is if the Biden presidency goes down the drain really badly.

Anyhow, in the scenario you envision, there's like a 99.5% chance that it triggers a civil war rather than a 'successful' transition of power from Biden/Harris to Trump...

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 3 2021 06:30pm
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