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Oct 19 2016 05:11pm
Quote (excellence @ Oct 19 2016 05:49pm)
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Donald Trump = The Little Guy?

lol

He's a 1%er
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Oct 19 2016 05:13pm
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Fucks Qua Haunt Us need a good old fashioned duck slapping.

Warren is a racist job stealer to boot.

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Donald Trump = The Little Guy?

lol

He's a 1%er


For my own education, when people talk about the 1%ers, are they generally talking about income, networth, some equation modifying networth for age, or something else?

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Oct 19 2016 05:21pm
Quote (excellence @ 19 Oct 2016 14:49)
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Fauxahontas like (C)linton is often confused



Wow, this is really dumb
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Oct 19 2016 06:53pm
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For my own education, when people talk about the 1%ers, are they generally talking about income, networth, some equation modifying networth for age, or something else?


they're talking about the RULERS OF THE ENTIRE WORLD
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Oct 19 2016 09:51pm
Quote (Pollster @ Oct 19 2016 03:32pm)
Who said Trump's rating is "actually accurate but Clinton's isn't?" That's... not even remotely what's being argued. We can't pretend that a -9% favorability rating (Clinton) and a -32% favorability rating (Trump) are the same thing. They aren't the same thing, even if they're both real. Clinton's is in line with our climate, Trump's is not.


I was referring to this statement, where you say Clinton's 2nd place record low likability doesn't count for some reason, while Trump's does.

Quote (Pollster @ Oct 19 2016 02:30pm)
Simply saying "candidate x is the most disliked candidate in recent history" doesn't mean anything on its own (outside of Trump, who really is setting a historic low).


Clinton's just is not in line with our "climate" at all. She's disliked because people dislike her specifically. It doesn't take a genius to see that even anecdotally.

Quote (Pollster @ Oct 19 2016 03:32pm)
The people you listed aren't major party nominees. Their name rec. isn't compatible, nothing about them is compatible.


How on Earth does Bernie Sanders not apply here? He nearly beat Clinton in the primary. His name recognition is enormous. You know likability would not have dropped to anywhere near Clinton's if he was the nominee, if at all.

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democrats are being over sampled by a ridiculous amount for polls


But the poll was a poll of who specific political party members support wasn't it? What does the sampling size matter? I'm assuming they either didn't include combined numbers of all parties, or if they did that they adjusted the numbers to the actual number of people in each party in the state using the ratios for each party.

If they were to actually sample Democrats disproportionately to the population and release combined numbers without adjusting them, it'd be an enormous scandal and they'd lose credibility forever.

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"Big guys" means corporations, I assume. The politicians rig the system for the corporations and rich elite. Doesn't really sound like she meant the elections are rigged.

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I was referring to this statement, where you say Clinton's 2nd place record low likability doesn't count for some reason, while Trump's does.



Clinton's just is not in line with our "climate" at all. She's disliked because people dislike her specifically. It doesn't take a genius to see that even anecdotally.



How on Earth does Bernie Sanders not apply here? He nearly beat Clinton in the primary. His name recognition is enormous. You know likability would not have dropped to anywhere near Clinton's if he was the nominee, if at all.



But the poll was a poll of who specific political party members support wasn't it? What does the sampling size matter? I'm assuming they either didn't include combined numbers of all parties, or if they did that they adjusted the numbers to the actual number of people in each party in the state using the ratios for each party.


no that data is just to verify the oversampling and part of a bigger poll. They gave hillary a lead of 3 in a state that is normally R+5 by oversampling democrats to D+34. They made Hillary look like she is winning by oversampling democrats by a ludicrous amount and they have done this several times in several other polls. This is why people say the polls are rigged.

even though I disagree with Bernie on principle I do think Bernie would have been a better candidate because Hillary is completely corrupt

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no that data is just to verify the oversampling and part of a bigger poll. They gave hillary a lead of 3 in a state that is normally R+5 by oversampling democrats to D+34. They made Hillary look like she is winning by oversampling democrats by a ludicrous amount and they have done this several times in several other polls. This is why people say the polls are rigged.


Can you link me to it so I can see? That's horrible if true.

(for reference, the actual betting odds for Arizona are currently at about 57% Clinton 43% Trump... how much does that differ from the poll?)

Also apparently there's some new independent guy named Evan McMullin who's got better odds than both Johnson and Stein lol.

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Oct 19 2016 10:04pm
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Can you link me to it so I can see? That's horrible if true.

(for reference, the actual betting odds for Arizona are currently at about 57% Clinton 43% Trump... how much does that differ from the poll?)

Also apparently there's some new independent guy named Evan McMullin who's got better odds than both Johnson and Stein lol.



http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/10/19/arizona-republic-morrison-cronkite-news-poll/92390100/
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Oct 19 2016 10:40pm
Quote (majorblood @ Oct 20 2016 12:04am)


Yeah there's nothing wrong with this. They adjusted it like I said. Read the paragraph right above the red text.

If they didn't adjust it it'd be 25.9% Trump 51.3% Clinton.

I guess I shouldn't have expected much from a guy who plays a retard for fame and money. "Trump has a 100% chance of winning the election"

This post was edited by Voyaging on Oct 19 2016 10:44pm
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