I understand this opinion, but many people are so uninformed that it's perhaps better if they stay away from the polls. But then again... I do not want politics to over-emphasize the priorities of wealthy and/or high education people even more. So... compulsory voting coupled with compulsory civics courses? But that would only create opportunity for indoctrination and manipulation. *sigh*


At the end of the day, nothing can compensate the lack of an informed, educated, engaged citizenry. So the only long-term remedy that I can see is investing more in the education system and poor communities. People need the breathing room, in terms of finances and free time, to read up on politics or show civic engagement. This would indirectly push turnout as a by-product.

people are move involved in politics than ever, informed tho is not coming along at the same pace. still there's no quicker way to get an informed populace than making it an involved populace. not just via news but via voting based on that news. then naturally if voting results are not in line with media information more scrutiny will be placed both on media outlets and politicians to actually act on what they were voted in for.

with 50% of people sitting on the sidelines accountability for a proposed platform is diluted heavily.

on the topic of compulsory vote i will never be in favor, voting is a right, and even a privilege, but it should never be a requirement imo.

Americans are treating political parties like sports teams tho.

increasing voters in the pool increases 3rd party support as well.

its a bit of a catch22, because u have to question if integer or percent support for 3rd party votes is needed, and ultimately its percent which increasing voter turnout might actually hurt. and the system is set up for 2 parties to remain in power indefinitely. im frankly not sure what way we can get more parties in power, but it must start in the legislature. an increase in voters increases 3rd party viability in congress, even if it remains unattainable for the executive branch.

I'm also no fan of compulsory voting. Like I said, it's better for society if some dregs dont vote. But it is an option, and it seems to be working fine in, e.g., Australia.

People are more involved in politics because the Trump years turned it into a weird mix of reality tv and House of Cards. Biden will imho succeed at making politics boring again, and political engagement will go down eventually.
Also, let's not forget that covid increased interest in politics like crazy. People sitting at home with nothing to do, and people experiencing the tremendous impact political decisions can have on their lives, both definitely increased political interest.



First past the post voting systems have a strong tendency towards a two-party system, but it's not a given. Both the UK and Australia show that third parties can gain traction or even power within FPTP. For America, a three-party landscape is the long-term future imho. Swing states will be contested between a moderate branch of the progressive and the conservative/'patriotic' party as well as the technocratic centrist party; deep blue states will be contested between the centrists and more radical chapters of the progressives; deep red states between the centrists and radical conservatives. The nationalization of politics coupled with the polarization of ideology and policy preferences leaves no other option.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 20 2021 04:45pm

Kudo for actually understanding shit for what they are. Half your comrades still asleep in lalaland bleeding red or blue.

One example; Trump order all the vaccines and secure things for America first. Biden come in, follow Trump footsteps and add a beautiful slogan "100m shots 100 days"... and the dems are like BIDEN DID IT ALL *Slow clap* .

All those people, you get rid of and keep the strong minded people and rebuild better. Sometimes, getting rid of the stupid fucks to advance as people is much needed.

This post was edited by SunnyvaleTrailerPark on May 20 2021 05:08pm

there is only one way to save democracy

let only proven net taxpayers vote and put massive restrictions on public offices

the career politician, who has never performed actual work in his/her life, is fucking cancer

a trade or degree and at least 10 years of work in the economy have to be mandatory

leeches should have no say in the outcone of elections, its destroying the system from within

Nope nope and nope.

First and foremost. Get rid of all the politicans above 55 and rebuild from the ground up. Get rid of all the useless fuck in every branches of the government and build better.

Destroy all political parties and simply elect people who represent the people on important aspect of society. It's that simple. Politicians shouldn't have 10 farmhouses, 8 islands for representing the people.

THEN

You add laws like;

- Cant vote if you fail tests (Political/Life knowledges tests to see if one is braindead)
- Cant vote if you aint born in America
- Cant vote if you are an immigrant
- Cant vote under a certain IQ
- Cant vote if you are tagged as a sexual offender/pedophile/rapist.
- Cant vote if you stole in the past (Can't trust a thief)

This post was edited by SunnyvaleTrailerPark on May 20 2021 05:12pm

And, Santa is real. You sound like progressive who is divorced from reality. None of this will ever be enacted and half of it so arbritary that it makes no sense. If you want to be productive, then write out a viable plan and chill with the autism.



Lol, the degree part definitely triggered him.

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1395767976595427333

Looking now at the "Mike Flynn was setup by the deep state" people and laughing until my balls fall off.

gd's goom

This post was edited by IceMage on May 21 2021 05:00pm