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I call it BDS. Its a new term I coined.

Quote (RedFromWinter @ Nov 16 2020 08:26am)

The amount of Israel language embedded and discussed on our US legislative docket should be concerning for all Americans regardless of your views on Israel. Its almost like they are more concerned with Israel at times than US domestic and foreign affairs. What other ally gets so much favor from the US for almost no return value?

Some of our representatives have got to be deep cover Mossad agents given the amount of shit I see written into bills.

BDS and the fight against it exposed a ton of reps willing to throw US under the bus for the sake of Israel.

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A 2017 LifeWay poll conducted in United States found that 80% of evangelical Christians believed that the creation of Israel in 1948 was a fulfillment of biblical prophecy that would bring about Christ's return and more than 50% of Evangelical Christians believed that they support Israel because it is important for fulfilling the prophecy.

According to the Pew Research survey in 2003, more than 60% of the Evangelical Christians and about 50% of Blacks agreed that the existence of Israel fulfilled biblical prophecy. About 55% of poll respondents said that the Bible was the biggest influence for supporting Israel which is 11 times the people who said church was the biggest influence.

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In 2012, The Economist estimated that "over one-third of Americans, more than 100 M, can be considered evangelical," arguing that the percentage is often undercounted because many African Americans espouse evangelical theology but refer to themselves as "born again Christians" rather than "evangelical." As of 2017, according to The Economist, white evangelicals overall account for about 17 percent of Americans, while white evangelicals under the age of 30 represent about 8 percent of Americans in that age group. Wheaton College's Institute for the Studies of American Evangelicals estimates that about 30 to 35 percent (90 to 100 million people) of the US population is evangelical. These figures include white and black "cultural evangelicals" (Americans who do not regularly attend church but identify as evangelicals). Similarly, a 2019 Gallup survey asking respondents whether they identified as "born-again" or "evangelical" found that 37% of respondents answered in the affirmative

Quote (RedFromWinter @ Nov 16 2020 07:26am)

The amount of Israel language embedded and discussed on our US legislative docket should be concerning for all Americans regardless of your views on Israel. Its almost like they are more concerned with Israel at times than US domestic and foreign affairs. What other ally gets so much favor from the US for almost no return value?

Some of our representatives have got to be deep cover Mossad agents given the amount of shit I see written into bills.

BDS and the fight against it exposed a ton of reps willing to throw US under the bus for the sake of Israel.

Quote (Mangix @ Nov 16 2020 07:35am)

We simp for Israel because of how powerful evangelicals are in our government.

Quote (RedFromWinter @ Nov 16 2020 08:47am)

Seems a violation of the 'separation of church and state' principle when we have US reps lobbying for rapture. Treason?

Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 16 2020 07:42am)

which other ally do we have that is so closely situated to powerful enemies?

South Korea and Japan get a large amount of attention based on their close position to China/North Korea.

Ukraine has been given a massive amount of attention compared to what we get out of them due to Russia.

But in a few decades deep picture Israel is closer to far more credible threats, 9-11 and all that jazz ya know?

Quote (RedFromWinter @ Nov 16 2020 07:57am)

Much of Israel's 'far more credible threats' are from their own self-fulfilling prophecies. Decades of illegal and aggressive Israel expansion, military occupation, forced curfews, humanitarian aid blockades have created some 'powerful enemies'. US taxpayer dollars shouldn't be used to shield such behavior. Disgusting

Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 16 2020 06:02am)

im no zionist and quite agree we shouldnt fund their shittiness. however, it is the fact that their enemies are largely our enemies that makes this possible.

the fact that they're up against "radical islamists" is what sells it.

but id be 100% fine if we cut the cord entirely.

Quote (theCrossbones @ Nov 16 2020 08:04am)

I don't know enough about the state of Israel. Do they need our money to "fight the infidels?" or we just like sending money to them, so we can buy votes?