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Nov 7 2018 07:53am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Nov 7 2018 06:10am)
Buuutt butttt muslims bBuuut butttt immigrannnnts buuuuut....

The shit is about to get washed out by the blue wave (post 625) :rofl:




losing seats =/= losing majority


Lmao! Blue wave was a blue splash - which is expected in an off year election for the party not in power. This was the expected result and both sides had a victory to prop them up. Republicans winning Indiana and FL in the senate is a big deal, along with stopping the socialist reincarnate Gillum take governorship.

You clearly know nothing about our politics and are the jester of PaRD. Every post you make has as much value as a dollar bill smeared in shit.

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Lol'd.
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I would love her to be speaker. She is a lightning rod for bad publicity and helps republicans immensely. Democrats should seriously consider prying that title from her fingers if they plan to use this big victory to actually accomplish something.

I doubt it, though. Dems aren't that smart and Pelosi is barely competent.
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I don't see how anythings going to change
What major legislation could republicans hope to have passed that they can't now? Because immigration and healthcare were the two major topics and they already failed to marshal the troops on both of those when given full control of the government. They didn't want to pass the major bills that Trump campaigned on, so they let them die. Democrats taking control won't change that. Trump could have had a 67-33 super-ultra-majority in the senate and a supermajority in the house and still the factions of the republicans would have infought and stonewalled his agenda. Its foolish to chalk up blame to one senator or two just because of the theatrics, when its pretty clear very few actually wanted the legislation they were going through the motions on.
So Trump will keep full power to confirm his judges, deregulate and control the executive bureaucracy, issue the same guidance memos and adjust national policies with the same EO magic wand Obama did, and same with his unilateral foreign policy.
I really don't get what's supposed to change other than Benghazi x10 being on the horizon

But it does put democrats into an uncomfortable position where the Trump tax cuts sunset clause will have to be voted on. As I pointed out at the time, Republicans used the same gimmick as the Bush tax cuts, except allowing them to sneak in under a reconciliation cutoff they had arbitrarily imposed on their own budget. But the real trick is that it means forcing democrats to either vote to hike taxes on the middle class or vote in favor of Trump's tax cuts. Obama got stuck in that position- even with full democrat control- and wound up having to extend the tax cuts and just lopped off the top tier. For house democrats to obstruct middle class tax cuts could be suicidal.

Well, it was interesting to see an election that wasn't interesting. Most everything went according to the conventional wisdom, besides maybe a black muslim antisemitic wifebeater winning a state-wide race in MN which I have to say I was expecting to wind up 40-60 not 47-45. But most of the rest of the expected results showed up: Dems take the house, republicans hold tighter on the senate, Beto, Gillum & Abrams all lose their money sink races (well, Abrams hasn't tapped out). And I'm genuinely happy to see Scott Walker gone, maybe that's a surprise.

/e pretty sure "muslim antisemitic" is redundant. and she wasn't his wife.

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I would love her to be speaker. She is a lightning rod for bad publicity and helps republicans immensely. Democrats should seriously consider prying that title from her fingers if they plan to use this big victory to actually accomplish something.

I doubt it, though. Dems aren't that smart and Pelosi is barely competent.

no no no it’s her turn. again. her or ocasio-Cortez
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Lmao! Blue wave was a blue splash - which is expected in an off year election for the party not in power. This was the expected result and both sides had a victory to prop them up. Republicans winning Indiana and FL in the senate is a big deal, along with stopping the socialist reincarnate Gillum take governorship.
You clearly know nothing about our politics and are the jester of PaRD. Every post you make has as much value as a dollar bill smeared in shit.


Im just reading political articles like anyone else, unlike some random farts doing personal attacks 24/7.

I posted links btw and even translations.

Now check post 625: the small shit got washed out, blue splash or blue wave, its still the same; this chamber is BLUE :rofl:

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I think Dems controlling committees is a big deal... it's only Bengahzi x10 if there's nothing there. I wouldn't bet on Trump running a tight ship like Obama did.

This is probably better for Republicans strategically... now they can do what they do best, refuse to compromise and then blame the Democrats.

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I think Dems controlling committees is a big deal... it's only Bengahzi x10 if there's nothing there. I wouldn't bet on Trump running a tight ship like Obama did.

This is probably better for Republicans strategically... now they can do what they do best, refuse to compromise and then blame the Democrats.


Lol, with Republicans controlling the White House and the Senate, it is the House Democrats who have to show willingness to compromise as long as the other side is making a move towards them.

It's actually pretty easy for the Republicans to lure the Democratic House into votes that paint them as obstructionists. With Democrats holding at least some legislative power, it will also be easier to divide the progressive, activist wing of the Democratic party from the centrist, moderate wing.

Call me silly, but I would rate Trump's chances of being reelected in 2020 slightly higher today than before the midterms.
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Quote (Goomshill @ 7 Nov 2018 15:05)
I don't see how anythings going to change
What major legislation could republicans hope to have passed that they can't now? Because immigration and healthcare were the two major topics and they already failed to marshal the troops on both of those when given full control of the government. They didn't want to pass the major bills that Trump campaigned on, so they let them die. Democrats taking control won't change that. Trump could have had a 67-33 super-ultra-majority in the senate and a supermajority in the house and still the factions of the republicans would have infought and stonewalled his agenda. Its foolish to chalk up blame to one senator or two just because of the theatrics, when its pretty clear very few actually wanted the legislation they were going through the motions on.
So Trump will keep full power to confirm his judges, deregulate and control the executive bureaucracy, issue the same guidance memos and adjust national policies with the same EO magic wand Obama did, and same with his unilateral foreign policy.
I really don't get what's supposed to change other than Benghazi x10 being on the horizon

But it does put democrats into an uncomfortable position where the Trump tax cuts sunset clause will have to be voted on. As I pointed out at the time, Republicans used the same gimmick as the Bush tax cuts, except allowing them to sneak in under a reconciliation cutoff they had arbitrarily imposed on their own budget. But the real trick is that it means forcing democrats to either vote to hike taxes on the middle class or vote in favor of Trump's tax cuts. Obama got stuck in that position- even with full democrat control- and wound up having to extend the tax cuts and just lopped off the top tier. For house democrats to obstruct middle class tax cuts could be suicidal.

Well, it was interesting to see an election that wasn't interesting. Most everything went according to the conventional wisdom, besides maybe a black muslim antisemitic wifebeater winning a state-wide race in MN which I have to say I was expecting to wind up 40-60 not 47-45. But most of the rest of the expected results showed up: Dems take the house, republicans hold tighter on the senate, Beto, Gillum & Abrams all lose their money sink races (well, Abrams hasn't tapped out). And I'm genuinely happy to see Scott Walker gone, maybe that's a surprise.

/e pretty sure "muslim antisemitic" is redundant. and she wasn't his wife.


Agreed. However, I think that the GOP got away with a black eye tonight. The way they were melting in the suburbs and the way progressive candidates were inching closer than ever before to winning in Texas, Florida and Georgia, this should really be a wake-up call for all Republicans, Trump included. Going forward, they HAVE to stop the bleeding in the suburbs, and they have to close the fundraising gap again.

But as I wrote yesterday, I think that with Trump in the WH, the GOP will be actually doing better in presidential years than off-years, so time will tell.

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Nov 7 2018 08:34am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Nov 7 2018 09:11am)
Im just reading political articles like anyone else, unlike some random farts doing personal attacks 24/7.

I posted links btw and even translations.

Now check post 625: the small shit got washed out, blue splash or blue wave, its still the same; this chamber is BLUE :rofl:


You can read every Vox and HuffPo article you want. That doesn't change the fact that your comprehension and critical thinking skills are on par with a potato. When I read about France it's all stabbings and acid attacks..... doesn't make it the norm.

Did you saw the potato?
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