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Feb 21 2024 11:16pm
Quote (FantasyWorldII @ Feb 21 2024 06:00pm)
Targeting civilians is prohibited by international law. To have to tell you boys that is me wasting time


The concept of international law doesn't exist in Total war because Total war is existential by definition

We intentionally targeted German and Japanese citizens quite a bit in WWII

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Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 21 2024 09:19pm)
Hamas 2.0, which will come around about 10 years from now.


M8, they already committed all those atrocities.
I think that there is a confusion between “more extreme” to more firepower. I have no doubt that if hamas had the ability to they would’ve murder each and every Israeli. Terrorists called their parents praising themselves for killing Jews during 10/7.. we are already in the ‘worst’.
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Yes, I absolutely do. Gaza has targeted the non-combatant infrastructure of Israel. Not just once. For half a century. If Israel fails to respond in kind, they are destined to lose.

By defending the actions of Gaza, and claiming that their government are "terrorists" rather than the government that is using the wealth, weapons, and citizenry of Gaza to wage total war against Israel, you're doing nothing more than attempting to defend the Jihadists from appropriate response during a period of active warfare.


Well then I guess I am a Jihadists when I say civilians should not be targeted by Hamas, Israel or any other regime.

BTW when did I defend the actions of Gaza? Let me know.

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Well then I guess I am a Jihadists when I say civilians should not be targeted by Hamas, Israel or any other regime.

BTW when did I defend the actions of Gaza? Let me know.


When you attempted to claim that Israel fighting the Gazans on the same terms as the Gazans are fighting the Israelis is terrorism.

You are attempting to label the governments of nations as terrorists for conducting war on other nations. That's not what a "terrorist group" is.

They aren't not attempting to use terror to illicit political change. They're attempting to slaughter their enemies, and the so-called "civilians" are their enemies.

Hamas are not terrorists. Neither is the Israeli government or the IDF. Gaza is waging total war and will be waged total war on in return. The citizens of Gaza are the enemies of Israel. The citizens of Israel are the enemies of Gaza. There are no civilians.
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When you attempted to claim that Israel fighting the Gazans on the same terms as the Gazans are fighting the Israelis is terrorism.

You are attempting to label the governments of nations as terrorists for conducting war on other nations. That's not what a "terrorist group" is.

They aren't not attempting to use terror to illicit political change. They're attempting to slaughter their enemies, and the so-called "civilians" are their enemies.

Hamas are not terrorists. Neither is the Israeli government or the IDF. Gaza is waging total war and will be waged total war on in return. The citizens of Gaza are the enemies of Israel. The citizens of Israel are the enemies of Gaza. There are no civilians.


If hamas terrorizes Israeli civilians they are no terrorists?
And you said the children of gaza have an over 90% conversion rate to become jihadists. Where did you get that number from?

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If hamas terrorizes Israeli civilians they are no terrorists?
And you said the children of gaza have an over 90% conversion rate to become jihadists. Where did you get that number from?


Hamas is not "terrorizing" the citizens of Israel. They're attempting to exterminate them. There is no attempt to illicit change. There are no terms. Gaza will not stop until every Israeli is dead.

No civilians. None. Every Israeli is considered an enemy combatant by Gaza. Men, women, and children. There are no bystandards. No "civilians".

And I said the children of Jihadists have a 90% conversion rate. Why, when I speak so plainly, are you attempting to interpret what I say, rather than simply take it as it is?
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ 22 Feb 2024 18:11)
Hamas is not "terrorizing" the citizens of Israel. They're attempting to exterminate them. There is no attempt to illicit change. There are no terms. Gaza will not stop until every Israeli is dead.

No civilians. None. Every Israeli is considered an enemy combatant by Gaza. Men, women, and children. There are no bystandards. No "civilians".

And I said the children of Jihadists have a 90% conversion rate. Why, when I speak so plainly, are you attempting to interpret what I say, rather than simply take it as it is?


I am simply asking you where you got that number % from? Have a problem with that? :rofl:

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Quote (FantasyWorldII @ 22 Feb 2024 00:28)
I am simply asking you where you got that number % from? Have a problem with that? :rofl:


I'm not certain I see the relevance. But a conglomeration of military reports dating over the last 50 years as well as summaries provided in think-tanks that use the same reports to determine the effectiveness of American foreign policy in the middle east.

The ultimate conclusion is that both the schools and the Mosques teach anti-Israeli sentiment and promote Jihad actively as a simple fact of their religion. The children of active Jihadists, especially those that die in the course of their holy war, are taught that this is a good thing, and their fathers (and mothers, from time to time) are celebrated as heroes. Guaranteed fame in this life, paradise in the next. A portion of the conclusion is that the normalization of Jihad in Islam cannot be removed without secularizing the schools AND wiping out the active jihadists. The concern is that that will not have a positive impact on the next generation.

If a 10 year old, who has heard their entire life that holy war is the way to end life a hero and enter the next life at the right hand of Allah, has their father killed and is then suddenly told that rather than being a hero going to paradise, their father is a terrorist who's going to burn in hell, what do you think their reaction is going to be? This is part of why the smartest minds in the west have not come to an answer on how to stop Jihad. Any military method that does not include killing the children of the jihadists AND secularizing their worldview simply creates even more radicalization.

The war against Israel by Gaza has now reached a point that it may be time for Israel to consider whether they want another 50 years of attempted extermination by the children of jihadists, or if instead they should view the children of jihadists as those jihadists view their own children, and potentially stand a chance of not simply passing along enemies to their children.

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I'm not certain I see the relevance. But a conglomeration of military reports dating over the last 50 years as well as summaries provided in think-tanks that use the same reports to determine the effectiveness of American foreign policy in the middle east.

The ultimate conclusion is that both the schools and the Mosques teach anti-Israeli sentiment and promote Jihad actively as a simple fact of their religion. The children of active Jihadists, especially those that die in the course of their holy war, are taught that this is a good thing, and their fathers (and mothers, from time to time) are celebrated as heroes. Guaranteed fame in this life, paradise in the next. A portion of the conclusion is that the normalization of Jihad in Islam cannot be removed without secularizing the schools AND wiping out the active jihadists. The concern is that that will not have a positive impact on the next generation.

If a 10 year old, who has heard their entire life that holy war is the way to end life a hero and enter the next life at the right hand of Allah, has their father killed and is then suddenly told that rather than being a hero going to paradise, their father is a terrorist who's going to burn in hell, what do you think their reaction is going to be? This is part of why the smartest minds in the west have not come to an answer on how to stop Jihad. Any military method that does not include killing the children of the jihadists AND secularizing their worldview simply creates even more radicalization.

The war against Israel by Gaza has now reached a point that it may be time for Israel to consider whether they want another 50 years of attempted extermination by the children of jihadists, or if instead they should view the children of jihadists as those jihadists view their own children, and potentially stand a chance of not simply passing along enemies to their children.


As much as I like salads, could you just point me to the source instead of this word salad :thumbsup:
Edit: You mentioned the number and when I ask where you get the number from all of a sudden "I'm not certain I see the relevance." :bonk:

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Lmao what the fuck man


His handle is literally InsaneBobb, what did you expect a Tolkien novel?
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