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May 12 2021 10:47am
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Imagine if blacks made up 5% of arrests, and represented 13% of deaths. Would you say that their death rate is "proportional", even though they were more than twice as likely to die per encounter? That makes absolutely no sense. It's just an incorrect way of looking at the situation.

Blacks are killed proportional to their share of overall arrests. They live in high-crime neighborhoods. They make up a disproportionate share of murder victims, and most murders are intraracial.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/251877/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-race-ethnicity-and-gender/

We should ask why American police kill so many people (comparatively) and seek to reduce it via reform. But it is clearly not driven by racial prejudice among police.


over and over your side, including in this post, pretends black people who call for reform not only ignore murder rates in the inner city, but also reduce reform efforts simply to police.

fringe BLM purple hairs who post an op ed on Huffpost literally calling for police to abandon the inner cities and imply this will work out positively are akin to Qanon idiots. who u tried unsuccessfully to distance republicans from just this week with a lazy "i dont see them talking about Q" (they just tweet Q talking points and theories) as MTG and others do.

when someone says "too many blacks are getting shot by police" you hear "just stop the cops from being racist and america is fixed" but what's really being said is "we need school reform, city code reform, police reform, gangs and drug trafficking taken care of, father mentor programs, counseling, food deserts addressed, and its a big uphill battle but overdue."

u shallowly use murder rates against people as a bludgeon who seek to reduce it themselves. shockingly tho barking at a city council meeting can have an impact but getting on the streets and yelling at crack dealers gets you shot.
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May 12 2021 11:14am
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when someone says "too many blacks are getting shot by police" you hear "just stop the cops from being racist and america is fixed" but what's really being said is "we need school reform, city code reform, police reform, gangs and drug trafficking taken care of, father mentor programs, counseling, food deserts addressed, and its a big uphill battle but overdue."


This is incorrect. They actually believe the fantasies.
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May 12 2021 11:18am
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This is incorrect. They actually believe the fantasies.


One problem at a time. Problem is, america is incapable of even solving a single problem.

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May 12 2021 11:23am
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This is incorrect. They actually believe the fantasies.


from failed mathematician to mind reader of people he's too scared to talk to in real life.

ive actually worked professionally in these communities while your greatest achievement is moving from a chubby 160 lbs down to a size 26 waisted 145 lb featherweight.

will you shut up man
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womp

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from failed mathematician to mind reader of people he's too scared to talk to in real life.

ive actually worked professionally in these communities while your greatest achievement is moving from a chubby 160 lbs down to a size 26 waisted 145 lb featherweight.

will you shut up man


I'm a 120 while soaking wet ectomorph.

When you talk to a black person at work, ask them "when you get in you car in the morning, do you feel afraid of the police?"

Without fail, 9000% of them say YES.

Its so sad, its like talking to flat earthers. These people can't be swayed.

I dare you, ask them.
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May 12 2021 11:25am
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womp


Yea huh.
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May 12 2021 11:27am
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I'm a 120 while soaking wet ectomorph.

When you talk to a black person at work, ask them "when you get in you car in the morning, do you feel afraid of the police?"

Without fail, 9000% of them say YES.

Its so sad, its like talking to flat earthers. These people can't be swayed.

I dare you, ask them.


at least you're able to get 1 person on earth soaking wet.

your point is moot, being scared of police =/= thinking police comprise the entire problem.

i could ask them if they think a lack of father figures, lack of job opportunities, and lack of quality education, etc etc etc factor into the violence in their communities too, as i have many times, and the answers are always the same.

in nearly 10 years of getting mostly poor black men ready to re-enter society i never once ran into one of the "if only the cops didnt exist we'd be Wakanda irl in Chiraq" types. they're journalists, and i'd bet most come from affluent neighborhoods or worse are white.
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at least you're able to get 1 person on earth soaking wet.

your point is moot, being scared of police =/= thinking police comprise the entire problem.

i could ask them if they think a lack of father figures, lack of job opportunities, and lack of quality education, etc etc etc factor into the violence in their communities too, as i have many times, and the answers are always the same.

in nearly 10 years of getting mostly poor black men ready to re-enter society i never once ran into one of the "if only the cops didnt exist we'd be Wakanda irl in Chiraq" types. they're journalists, and i'd bet most come from affluent neighborhoods or worse are white.


Its a huge aspect of the problem.

George Floyd resisted arrest because he thought the police were going to kill him. If he wasn't drinking the media cool aid, he likely would have just sat in the police car.

How many other people die every year because they believe in the animated puppet show created by the media?

The bible teaches that you can't control the world, you can only control what is inside your own mind. Black people nowadays just use the oppression olympics as a convenience excuse to be an asshole.

The small percentage that you interact with are the exceptions that prove the rule.

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Its a huge aspect of the problem.

George Floyd resisted arrest because he thought the police were going to kill him. If he wasn't drinking the media cool aid, he likely would have just sat in the police car.

How many other people die every year because they believe in the animated puppet show created by the media?

The bible teaches that you can't control the world, you can only control what is inside your own mind. Black people nowadays just use the oppression olympics as a convenience excuse to be an asshole.

The small percentage that you interact with are the exceptions that prove the rule.


apparently floyd was a better mind reader than you.

the small percentage i deal with are federally convicted criminals, and even at like .0000001% of the population its 10x more than you'll ever bother to actually talk to.

you'll let Hannity tell you what black people think via covering CNN thinktank panels.
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