Ok sure bruhh im weak for saying civilians should not be targeted.

Women and children have always been legit targets. Basic siege warfare for thousands of years included encircling your enemy, quartering the corpses of their fallen and launching them back at them. Give it a week for the rats to do their work. Ever seen plague and disease bypass children?

People who focus on non-combatant casualties rather than killing their enemies and or forcing them to submit seldom win wars. Those who kill the soldiers, the families of the soldiers, everyone who does business with the soldiers, and literally every bit of infrastructure that supports those soldiers tend to do pretty well.

It's not about "Muslim bad". It's about Muslims not playing by "rules of modern warfare". They're applying the rules of warfare that have worked for thousands of years and simply using modern weapons. Which is why they persevere, and their enemies tend to withdraw. Israel has nowhere to withdraw. So the question becomes, will the fight on the same terms their enemy does, or will they die? Those are the options. Hebollah and Hamas seem to think they'll be so distracted by optics, they'll just die. The PA has thought that for a long time as well, with their lifetime stipends to the families of "martyrs" who die killing Israeli "civilians".

I said it before, I'll say it again. The West has adopted a highly destructive "Rules for ME, but not for THEE" attitude when it comes to conducting warfare. Labeling the targeting of the support structures that enable militaries to function as "terrorism" doesn't change the fact that they're valid targets and always have been. All it does is rouse public sentiment in your favor, because the public doesn't know shit about war. All they know is their pathetic "feelings". Tell those festival-goers about your "feelings". I'm sure they'd be interested to hear all about it.



You are weak. When your enemy is tarteting your support infrastructure, including non-combatants, and you refuse to target their infrastructure, including non-combatants, your enemy never submits.

If Israel truly wanted to get serious, they'd cut off all food, water, medical supplies, and power to Gaza. They'd fully embargo the region, kill any tunnel rat that peeps their head out, and just sit on it for a month. If Gaza doesn't surrender unconditionally, they can all starve. When area is nothing more than a field of bones, move in, incinerate the corpses, and put the land to some other use than the staging of attacks against Israeli "civ ilians".

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Feb 21 2024 06:34pm

Lmao what the fuck man

Don't get me twisted. I'm anti-war. But if a war must be fought, I want it to be so terrible and destructive against my enemy that they will be BEGGING to surrender unconditionally.

That you think that the support infrastructure that makes your enemy's military possible should not be targeted means one of two things: You know fuckall about war, or you aren't serious about winning it.

Man, you are unbelievably cringe lol

No, I have simply studied military strategy and tactics for the last 30 years, and don't apply feelings and moral judgements to necessary actions once engagement has begun.

We will agree that war is immoral in the majority of scenarios. Done. By that logic, you're already committing immoral acts. Now the question is, do you wish to win, or do you wish to die?

If I have surety that I can fight and kill you, your children, your elderly, your women, your farmers and factory workers, and my women and children and farmers and factory workers will be left alone to support me, why would I ever surrender or stop fighting? Do you think Hamas believes they're in the wrong?

You seem kinda insecure for a cold calculating military genius, ngl.

Insecure about what? You're providing me the opportunity to drive the point home.

Hamas has been assured by the west as well as the Islamic world that they can conduct real war against Israel, and if Israel conducts real war in return, the "International Community" will step in. Thanks to that fact, Hamas is more emboldened than ever. They have taught their children that the Israelis are their enemies and it is good and just and right to kill their women and children and elderly. We're on the third generation of Gazans actively engaged in combat against Israel.

Rather than spouting bullshit like, "Think about the children" why don't we focus instead on, "Who do we wish to support?" Israel tried for decades to focus on targeted strikes and military-only targets. All it has accomplished is to give Gaza decades of "OMG they killed our children!" propaganda to stir up anti-Israeli sentiment with.

It's ironic that the Gazans killed thousands of Israeli "civilians" including women, children, and the elderly, including raping and torturing them to death, and there were celebrations in the streets of the majority of the nations of the middle east. What was the reaction among the people's of the west? Prior to any counterstrike whatsoever, immediate "Free Palestine" and "Two State Solution!" protests in the west.

Who do you support? I'm very secure in rooting for Israel. Israel is our friend. Gaza is not. I do not support them, however. If they need weapons, they can buy them. If they need military assistance, they can pay for it on a mercenary pay scale. Otherwise, good luck to them. Those who support Gaza's murdering of Israelis but decry the Israeli murder of Gazans in response clearly support the jihadists. And that's okay. Just be honest. For once.

Ye its kinda waste of time to read InsaneBobb's post when it starts with "Women and children have always been legit targets"... What a big man

To his credit, he knows he is insane

In Total war there is no distinction between civilians and combatant.