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May 11 2021 09:53pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ 12 May 2021 05:20)
David Dorn.

His death was LIVESTREAMED ON FACEBOOK by BLM rioters.


since this is the only name (out of 32 alleged murders) you were able to provide, i assume it's the best case you could find to support your claim.

so where did you get the information that his killer was a member of blm? i couldn't find any source confirming that. also, i couldn't find any even semi-"official" blm statement not condemning the killing. furthermore, he was shot several miles away and several hours after a blm protest, so what even is your point here, other than trying to make excuses for violent insurrectionists trying to overturn a democratic election because their cult leader is a sore loser?

seems like you're just making stuff up in order to smear a movement against racial discrimination and police violence, to the surprise of literally no one here...
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May 11 2021 09:57pm
Just because a well-intentioned movement has some bad apples or exogenous variables such as antifa capitalizing on a lucrative or fiery opportunity doesn't mean that that it should be blamed for all the damage or deaths. A vast majority of the protests were very peaceful and pure. It's like saying all Muslims should be blamed for 9/11... the usual suspects here have such searing white fragility and you wonder why people protest against you.
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May 11 2021 10:07pm
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on the one hand we have demonstrations against racial discrimination and excessive police violence (both documented and proven in countless scientific studies, not that any halfway honest and intelligent person wasn't already well aware of this issue), on the other hand we have people encouraged by a sitting president trying to overturn a democratic election by storming the capitol, trying to abduct or kill elected officials.

whoever even tries to draw an equivalence between those two is a dishonest little hack. one is a huge social issue that desperately needs to be addressed, the other one is a conspiracy theory made up by a sore loser and perpetuated by a profit focused propaganda apparatus, catering to gullible bigots.



do you know the definition of "murder"? who were the murderers? how do you know they were members of blm? any source?


Police do not kill blacks at a disproportionate rate. Spreading easily debunked lies in order to engineer race riots which destroy communities and lives is completely unacceptable. It threatens the fabric of society, just as bombing federal courthouses and violently burning down police precincts threatens society. Looting local stores destroys local economies and directly endangers lives.

The scale of the 2020 antifa race riots dwarfs any comparison to a localized riot by a few thousand Trump supporters. The desperation behind the drive to find a murder was precisely because the framing was so weak. We can condemn dangerous. lawless behavior in the Capitol without getting drawn into these ridiculous exaggerations.
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May 11 2021 10:12pm
Quote (bogie160 @ May 11 2021 11:07pm)
Police do not kill blacks at a disproportionate rate.


:rolleyes:

ok bud
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May 11 2021 10:16pm
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Police do not kill blacks at a disproportionate rate. Spreading easily debunked lies in order to engineer race riots which destroy communities and lives is completely unacceptable. It threatens the fabric of society, just as bombing federal courthouses and violently burning down police precincts threatens society. Looting local stores destroys local economies and directly endangers lives.

The scale of the 2020 antifa race riots dwarfs any comparison to a localized riot by a few thousand Trump supporters. The desperation behind the drive to find a murder was precisely because the framing was so weak. We can condemn dangerous. lawless behavior in the Capitol without getting drawn into these ridiculous exaggerations.


like i said: every "halfway honest and intelligent person" - that obviously doesn't include you. so by all means, keep lying and making excuses for traitors and murderers...
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May 12 2021 05:48am
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The antifa riots of 2020 killed more people, caused far more economic damage, and set the country back on race relations by at least 30 years.

A bunch of angry Trump supporters rioting and one getting shot by police will pale in comparison.


Set back 30 years?, what were the racial relarions advancements since Rodney Kings clubbing?
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May 12 2021 05:58am
Quote (Thor123422 @ May 12 2021 12:12am)
:rolleyes:

ok bud


It's like Trump lobotomized him.
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May 12 2021 06:24am
Quote (kenw @ 12 May 2021 05:57)
Just because a well-intentioned movement has some bad apples or exogenous variables such as antifa capitalizing on a lucrative or fiery opportunity doesn't mean that that it should be blamed for all the damage or deaths. A vast majority of the protests were very peaceful and pure. It's like saying all Muslims should be blamed for 9/11... the usual suspects here have such searing white fragility and you wonder why people protest against you.


Islam is double-faced: it is at the same time a viable religion with a valid spiritual core and a totalitarian societal model with a worldly, all-encompassing claim to power. That's the deeper reason why muslims struggle so much more than any other group to integrate into other cultures: a person needs to be merely an orthodox, rather than ultra-orthodox or extremist, muslim to believe in things which are fundamentally incompatible with the values and norms of Western societies.

So while we cannot and should not blame all muslims for 9/11, these terror attacks are nonetheless an indicator for a problematic underlying ideology.

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Likewise, the vast majority of cops are well-intentioned people doing their job to the best of their ability and in all conscience. The frequency with which police violence occurs and is covered up nonetheless points to a dangerous and troubling culture in many PDs; and to still pervasive racism in some corners of society.

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And in the same vein, the willingness of antifa and BLM activists to exercise violence and inflict property damage on innocent bystanders is indicative of a dangerous underlying ideology which rejects the rule of law and the state's monopoly on the use of force.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 12 2021 06:25am
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May 12 2021 06:33am
Quote (nomadwgk @ May 12 2021 07:48am)
Set back 30 years?, what were the racial relarions advancements since Rodney Kings clubbing?


According to public opinion surveys? Quite good.

Quote (Skinned @ May 12 2021 07:58am)
It's like Trump lobotomized him.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

https://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/ucr.asp?table_in=2

Education is free. There's no reason to fall down the disinfo rabbit hole.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/316571/black-americans-police-retain-local-presence.aspx

And do black Americans share the white liberal fascination with fewer police? Of course not, they actually have to live in these "defunded" communities.

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Preference for Amount of Time Police Spend in Your Area
Would you rather the police spend more time, the same amount of time or less time as they currently spend in your area?
More time Same amount of time Less time
Black Americans 20 61 19
White Americans 17 71 12
Hispanic Americans 24 59 17

GALLUP PANEL, JUNE 23-JULY 6, 2020
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