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May 11 2021 02:26pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ May 11 2021 03:18pm)
Yes lets strip the posts of all context to make it more convenient for you. /s

Surfpunk's entire post reads: "five people died"

My response "How did they die?"

You two: OMG THATS IRRELVANT

great job guys. keep it up.


surely people die of heart attacks at a typical BLM protest, there's burning cars, angry mobs, property damage, etc. and those other 4 people that died, nvm lets not focus on them.

:rofl:

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Quote (cambovenzi @ May 11 2021 03:24pm)
Would you like to explain how that part of the paraphrased post fundamentally alters anything here?

Both sections are talking about cause of death, which is relevant. Both to what you said and to the larger context of the discussion.

Its ok to admit you were wrong.


ill send u 250 fg right now if u can link u admitting you were wrong, not indirectly.

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May 11 2021 02:33pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ May 11 2021 03:24pm)
Would you like to explain how that part of the paraphrased post fundamentally alters anything here?

Both sections are talking about cause of death, which is relevant. Both to what you said and to the larger context of the discussion.

Its ok to admit you were wrong.


My statement was this: "Five people died"

Your statement included "...only one person was KILLED" (emphasis mine).

My initial statement did not make any determination as to the cause of death for any of the five, just that they died. Your use of the term "was killed", followed by the "murdered by police" phrase brings intent and causality to the picture. I never said "Five people were killed", or "were murdered". Just simply that they died. If you want to imply anything, you can imply that they died on the US Capitol grounds on January 6, 2021. Or, as has already been stated by others, you can imply that five people dying (regardless of the circumstances of their deaths) was not a normal occurrence at a "typical BLM protest".
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May 11 2021 02:33pm
Quote (thesnipa @ May 11 2021 04:26pm)
surely people die of heart attacks at a typical BLM protest, there's burning cars, angry mobs, property damage, etc. and those other 4 people that died, nvm lets not focus on them.

:rofl:

Miss Cameo, call me now for ur free reading!



ill send u 250 fg right now if u can link u admitting you were wrong, not indirectly.


>Sarcastic deflection instead of dealing with the point.

Is the cause of death relevant or not?
If a rioter shots an old man in the head and someone tapes him bleeding out on the ground is that the same thing as someone dying from a heart attack?

I have admitted I am wrong on a few occasions. I make an effort to rarely be wrong.
Trying to turn this back around on me is another invalid deflection. I am clearly right here so you are desperate to avoid recognizing my points.
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May 11 2021 02:47pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ May 11 2021 04:33pm)
My statement was this: "Five people died"

Your statement included "...only one person was KILLED" (emphasis mine).

My initial statement did not make any determination as to the cause of death for any of the five, just that they died. Your use of the term "was killed", followed by the "murdered by police" phrase brings intent and causality to the picture. I never said "Five people were killed", or "were murdered". Just simply that they died. If you want to imply anything, you can imply that they died on the US Capitol grounds on January 6, 2021. Or, as has already been stated by others, you can imply that five people dying (regardless of the circumstances of their deaths) was not a normal occurrence at a "typical BLM protest".


Yes you said they died and I brought up cause of death, which is relevant.
I did not contest the fact that some people died. I brought up important facts about those deaths.

A couple people dying from a heart attack or stroke and someone dying the next day among tens of thousands of people is not a particularly strong counterpoint to what OTV said.
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May 11 2021 02:49pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ May 11 2021 03:47pm)
Yes you said they died and I brought up cause of death, which is relevant.
I did not contest the fact that some people died. I brought up important facts about those deaths.

A couple people dying from a heart attack or stroke and someone dying the next day among tens of thousands of people is not a particularly strong counterpoint to what OTV said.


And five people dying (regardless of the circumstances of their deaths) isn't something that occurs/occurred at a "typical BLM protest", which is what OTV tried to equate the events of January 6th with.
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May 11 2021 02:57pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ May 11 2021 04:49pm)
And five people dying (regardless of the circumstances of their deaths) isn't something that occurs/occurred at a "typical BLM protest", which is what OTV tried to equate the events of January 6th with.


Yes there are a number of differences between the events.

As I said, someone dying from a heart attack is a very weak point in the context of the discussion.

Typical BLM riots don't happen at the capitol.
Typical BLM riots aren't in support of Trump.
Typical BLM riots are based on the myth of rampant racist murders by police.
Typical BLM riots target innocent people and businesses.

These would also be weak responses to OTV's points.
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May 11 2021 04:25pm
The antifa riots of 2020 killed more people, caused far more economic damage, and set the country back on race relations by at least 30 years.

A bunch of angry Trump supporters rioting and one getting shot by police will pale in comparison.
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May 11 2021 05:19pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ May 11 2021 04:49pm)
And five people dying (regardless of the circumstances of their deaths) isn't something that occurs/occurred at a "typical BLM protest", which is what OTV tried to equate the events of January 6th with.


BLM murdered 32 people last year and caused $5 billion in property damage.

The average person makes $2 million in wealth over an entire life so BLM killed over 3,000 people.

Fuck off with your shit morality.
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May 11 2021 09:00pm
on the one hand we have demonstrations against racial discrimination and excessive police violence (both documented and proven in countless scientific studies, not that any halfway honest and intelligent person wasn't already well aware of this issue), on the other hand we have people encouraged by a sitting president trying to overturn a democratic election by storming the capitol, trying to abduct or kill elected officials.

whoever even tries to draw an equivalence between those two is a dishonest little hack. one is a huge social issue that desperately needs to be addressed, the other one is a conspiracy theory made up by a sore loser and perpetuated by a profit focused propaganda apparatus, catering to gullible bigots.

Quote (EndlessSky @ 12 May 2021 01:19)
BLM murdered 32 people last year and caused $5 billion in property damage.

The average person makes $2 million in wealth over an entire life so BLM killed over 3,000 people.

Fuck off with your shit morality.


do you know the definition of "murder"? who were the murderers? how do you know they were members of blm? any source?

This post was edited by fender on May 11 2021 09:09pm
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on the one hand we have demonstrations against racial discrimination and excessive police violence (both documented and proven in countless scientific studies, not that any halfway honest and intelligent person wasn't already well aware of this issue), on the other hand we have people encouraged by a sitting president trying to overturn a democratic election by storming the capitol, trying to abduct or kill elected officials.

whoever even tries to draw an equivalence between those two is a dishonest little hack. one is a huge social issue that desperately needs to be addressed, the other one is a conspiracy theory made up by a sore loser and perpetuated by a profit focused propaganda apparatus, catering to gullible bigots.



do you know the definition of "murder"? who were the murderers? how do you know they were members of blm? any source?


David Dorn.

His death was LIVESTREAMED ON FACEBOOK by BLM rioters.
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