Our universe is created by clear design.

Who created life as we know it. If not God, who?

Life will never randomly exist spontaneously from "nothing". So where did life begin and what entity has always been present capable of producing life on this grand scale?

You telling me to think of me before I was created again answers to the fact I was created and I have my own soul and my own free will. Who gave me that life? My parents? Sure, but rewind to the first human. Each human is a single living organism with a soul and with free will to make decisions and have their own belief. But give me something justifiable, realistic, and give me another religion that account's for everything we know to exist and doesn't contradict itself.

Just because our small brains limited to what we found on this one small planet cant explain the grand scheme of things with 100% percent certainty, doesnt mean an eternal creator made it all.

You only say this universe was "created by clear design", because you end of the perspective it all fits so perfectly, it all plays together, right? Of course it does, because me and you, we are the result of it all. Doesnt mean someone designed it.
It all fits so well, because everything is the direct result of the steps before it. So that in the end we happened to exist.

I am not saying I know it all or so, I just say that concluding that god made it ll because we dont know how it all happened is stupid.

This post was edited by Kaltrato on Feb 19 2026 10:11am

So you, without an answer, and telling me I need ro live differently. Why? This is my life and I have my own experiences to know how real God is.

We have one book that speaks to all of this, free from contradiction, speaks to history, events today, and future events coming (previous future events already happening and have happened today), touches base on a historical figure that did exist (Jesus), verifiable evidence and about a God who tends to his faithful sheep.

Hebrews 11:1 ("Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen")

Proverbs 3:5-6 ("Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding"). This verse in particular counters your argument about not being able to lean on your own understanding. We have scientific advances that lean towards the understanding that we have a soul and our universe is by design. Any change in our worldly design effects everything at a catastrophic level.

why dont you pick which one of those you think is strongest

in the meant time i will do the flood.
the tapeats sandstone layer is a sedimentary layer. (sedimentary layer means it was laid down by water)
what is the total coverage of this layer.
i betting you cant find out.
for some reason this anser is hard to find
it makes the 'atheist cause look bad?

consider the fine tuning argument

Nothing in the bible counters a real world argument.

This post was edited by Kaltrato on Feb 19 2026 10:35am

Fine tuning is a resultbased mechanism, its not conscious design. Its just auto dog breeding - on a larger scale.

This post was edited by Kaltrato on Feb 19 2026 10:37am

Show me a modern world argument that covers everything then. Otherwise I'm going to reference the history and text from God that answers all of these questions without contradiction.

Right now the Bible covers all of the answers I have and I have an in depth relationship with God and the life his actions bring forth over my life has blessed my wife, kids, and family beyond my own understanding. I have seen many miracles that I will continue to thank God for.

My experience set aside I'm still waiting for you to provide the answer. What I do and what I believe in doesnt effective your life negatively whatsoever, yet you feel the need to talk down on somebody because they share a different belief.

I'm open to having a civil discussion on your side and my side, but right now you haven't presented a side. Nothing but a "you're wrong I'm right argument" and you have nothing to show for it. Yet my life since 2011 actually has something to show for it putting my trust in his word.

you even look into it. i bet you just glossed it and fudged out a excuse. 'atheist ability to make excuses have become legendary.


@6:44 it's a hallucination or a
@8:00 aleins trying to trick us
@10:16 'atheists have adopted a methodology complete impervious to evidence

'atheists
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who've been programmed like Bots to run
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around screaming show me the evidence
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show me the evidence show me the
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evidence that's no evidence that's no
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evidence that's no evidence it's their
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mantra
Richard Dawkins expose the Psychology of the New Atheism

I stopped asking for evidence long ago, I know there is no evidence for god.