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Feb 16 2024 01:46am
Quote (zorzin @ 15 Feb 2024 15:24)
After the publication of the report, Finance Minister Bezalel America trying for a peace deal:
Smotrich responded: "We will not in any way agree to this plan, which, in effect, states that the Palestinians deserve a reward for the terrible massacre they committed against us: A Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital. I will demand today at the meeting of the State Security Cabinet to make an unequivocal decision, stating that Israel opposes the establishment of a Palestinian state and the imposition of sanctions on over half a million settlers."

American sources said that relations between U.S. President Joe Biden and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reached a boiling point in recent days, against the backdrop of the planned IDF operation in Rafah.

https://allisrael.com/us-package-deal-announcement-of-plan-for-establishment-of-a-palestinian-state-within-weeks


They have left rafah and another city.

Its just a matter of time

You keep reading articles I keep living reality

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They have left rafah and another city.

Its just a matter of time

You keep reading articles I keep living reality


I'm confused by your post, sorry

Are you saying that Israel won't move on rafah? The icj just ruled in israels favour regarding the rafah incursion, so you got the green light. Egypts building a containment zone to the west so it looks like they got somewhere to go. Imo Israel has to take rafah and block the arms coming in from those tunnels or else hamas can last a lifetime in there.

Time is also of the essence, so you gota do it quick and then quickly shift the attention to fighting hezbollah and making sure syria/iraq doesn't fall into the Iranian sphere of influence. A direct land crossing from Iran to Lebanon simply can't happen
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Feb 17 2024 05:32am
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I'm confused by your post, sorry

Are you saying that Israel won't move on rafah? The icj just ruled in israels favour regarding the rafah incursion, so you got the green light. Egypts building a containment zone to the west so it looks like they got somewhere to go. Imo Israel has to take rafah and block the arms coming in from those tunnels or else hamas can last a lifetime in there.

Time is also of the essence, so you gota do it quick and then quickly shift the attention to fighting hezbollah and making sure syria/iraq doesn't fall into the Iranian sphere of influence. A direct land crossing from Iran to Lebanon simply can't happen


We will move into rafah I stated since day 1 we will obliterate hamas

And like you see now 4 months later we are still there.
Time is not the problem

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We will move into rafah I stated since day 1 we will obliterate hamas

And like you see now 4 months later we are still there.
Time is not the problem


How's it going clearing out the tunnels?
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Feb 17 2024 08:25am
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How's it going clearing out the tunnels?


pretty good actually, it simply takes time.
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We will move into rafah I stated since day 1 we will obliterate hamas

And like you see now 4 months later we are still there.
Time is not the problem


I have to disagree here my friend.

Imo, time is crucial here. You have to wrap up the Gaza chapter as quickly as possible because hez/Iran has now become a major threat to your regional security. The Americans just seized an arms shipment from Iran to Yemen. The arms they recovered was substantial; all high tech stuff that Ansarallah can't produce domestically. The pipeline from Tehran to its proxies should be the #1 issue facing Israel going forward and there has to be a coordinated effort between the US and Israel to stop this or Iran's just gona take over while yall still too busy in rafah
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I have to disagree here my friend.

Imo, time is crucial here. You have to wrap up the Gaza chapter as quickly as possible because hez/Iran has now become a major threat to your regional security. The Americans just seized an arms shipment from Iran to Yemen. The arms they recovered was substantial; all high tech stuff that Ansarallah can't produce domestically. The pipeline from Tehran to its proxies should be the #1 issue facing Israel going forward and there has to be a coordinated effort between the US and Israel to stop this or Iran's just gona take over while yall still too busy in rafah


you also disagreed on the fact it will last this long.
I told this is going to end with hamas on its knees
furthermore, Israel is able to fight on multiple fronts we trained for it, almost every person in the country served in the military so to win against Israel you have to kill all of us.
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I was right about the trophy system being ass on merks. It's impressive that Israel is live-adapting their tanks with new APS systems:

Nothing from the threats we encountered in Gaza surprised us, not even their outcomes. However, the endless amount of weapons were definitely a surprise, also in terms of infrastructure strength. The amount of anti-tank missiles fired towards our forces is incomparable to any previous war we experienced. It's unlike anything we've known before. So is the enormous quantity of munitions our forces captured in the field. It shows how well-prepared Hamas was for this war," Brigadier General Oren Giber, head of the Ministry of Defense’s Tank and APC (Armored Personnel Carriers) Directorate, told Calcalist about the capabilities of Hamas in the war in Gaza.

The Merkava tanks, Namer APCs, and Eitan AFVs have a very good level of protection. The ground maneuvering doesn’t stop, and the tanks operate well in the field. Fortunately, scenes from past wars like tank convoys stuck due to missile hits or tanks exploding, aren't repeating themselves. Clearly, there are fewer casualties with these vehicles, also in comparison to the Second Lebanon War."
Following the Second Lebanon War, Rafael developed the "Trophy" defense system. How well does it protect the vehicles in Gaza?
"Trophy is installed on some of the Merkava tanks, on Barak tanks, and on the Namer APCs. This year, the Iron Fist defense system will be installed on Eitan APCs, and there is an option to integrate it also on the D9 bulldozers. In both cases, Trophy and Iron Fist are very important systems and still, they constitute just one of several protective layers for the fighters in these vehicles. We decided to adapt the combat vehicles against the threats of anti-tank missiles.

https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/sypvqdoi6


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I have to disagree here my friend.

Imo, time is crucial here. You have to wrap up the Gaza chapter as quickly as possible because hez/Iran has now become a major threat to your regional security. The Americans just seized an arms shipment from Iran to Yemen. The arms they recovered was substantial; all high tech stuff that Ansarallah can't produce domestically. The pipeline from Tehran to its proxies should be the #1 issue facing Israel going forward and there has to be a coordinated effort between the US and Israel to stop this or Iran's just gona take over while yall still too busy in rafah


War is not a 2 week prospect unless you're going scorched earth. Where did you learn military strategy from? A crackerjack box?

You want to get an unconditional surrender from someone within 2 weeks? Nuke them. No other method works.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 18 2024 04:23pm)
War is not a 2 week prospect unless you're going scorched earth. Where did you learn military strategy from? A crackerjack box?

You want to get an unconditional surrender from someone within 2 weeks? Nuke them. No other method works.


Ya I got it on the back of a cereal box.

Israel already went scorched earth; dropping over 70 000 tons of explosives and leveling the entirety of Gaza, so basically they already got nuked thrice. There would have been other methods that would have worked if the goal was to defeat hamas but as one can clearly see, this has always been about pushing gazans into the Sinai. Why else do you think Israel has let hezb fuck up the north? It's cause it doesn't want to open up a two front war. I'll await your response my fellow armchair general
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