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Jul 7 2022 12:42pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 7 Jul 2022 20:17)
so why exactly is brandon selling oil from the strategic reserve to other countries when there is a lack of fuel in the states?


I don't think it makes a big difference on a very global and liquid market like the one for oil. Keeping the oil from the strategic reserve in the US would only have a big impact on US fuel prices if there were export restrictions already in place. Since such restrictions aren't active yet, US producers would just sell a larger share of their oil on the global markets.

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Jul 7 2022 01:14pm
actually this deserves its own thread, its juicy

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Jul 7 2022 01:28pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 7 2022 02:14pm)
actually this deserves its own thread, its juicy

The sensory deprivation video ?

Fucking yikes

I can’t help but think if a video of Trumps son came out doing that how much attention it would garner
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Jul 7 2022 01:34pm
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Jul 7 2022 02:28pm)
The sensory deprivation video ?

Fucking yikes

I can’t help but think if a video of Trumps son came out doing that how much attention it would garner


nope the democrats going on a wild dirty tricks campaign in north carolina to steal the election, and now resorted to simply alleging "voter fraud" with no evidence and then using their control over the state board of elections to fully bar the green party from the ballot even though it had a verifiable number of signatures required to be on the ballot. They spent weeks harassing everyone who signed for the green party to try to get them to revoke their signatures, spamming robo calls and in person visits, but couldn't get anywhere close to enough to withdraw to scuttle the petition even with the dirty tricks, including lying to green party voters and impersonating green party officials to try to hoodwink them into withdrawing their names. So after that failed, they simply alleged "voter fraud" without evidence and voted to bar the greens from the election.
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Jul 7 2022 02:25pm
Quote (Ghot @ Jul 7 2022 11:37am)
I think they're catching on. Biden's approval rating is dropping like a cement balloon.


president doofus needs to come out with another mask mandate
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Jul 7 2022 02:44pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 7 2022 08:42pm)
I don't think it makes a big difference on a very global and liquid market like the one for oil. Keeping the oil from the strategic reserve in the US would only have a big impact on US fuel prices if there were export restrictions already in place. Since such restrictions aren't active yet, US producers would just sell a larger share of their oil on the global markets.


you are right, my thinking did include that the released oil would go directly to the us market

should go without saying to be really honest, but you are correct to point it out
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Jul 7 2022 05:00pm
Quote (IgoSoHard @ 7 Jul 2022 15:28)
The sensory deprivation video ?

Fucking yikes

I can’t help but think if a video of Trumps son came out doing that how much attention it would garner

wow that is almost hilarious. hunter gives zero fucks what a party champ. his daddie will always save the day so he does hard drugs and drinks like a tank in a rehab facility

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Jul 7 2022 06:16pm
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dianne-feinstein-abortion-filibuster-carveout_n_62c736e9e4b02e0ac911b07d

Dianne Feinstein joins the list of Democrats embracing the call to arms to end the legislative filibuster so they can enshrine abortion protections in law at the federal level so that it can be immediately stripped away with another federal law the moment Republicans take control of congress after the midterms.

The logic goes something like this
The liberals got a court decision that usurped the power of the states and congress to regulate abortion. The liberals wanted to get more judges into the lower courts, so they went nuclear under Reid and ended the filibuster on judges, only for it to backfire spectacularly when Republicans got both more judges onto the lower courts and then felt justified in a tit-for-tat action to end the filibuster on the supreme court nominees. With the democrats very foolishly filibustering Gorsuch when Trump had an election tailwind, the entire party united behind him and extremely high approval ratings and an uncontroversial candidate- guaranteeing that even the likes of Romney and McCain would join in going nuclear to quash the hypocritical democrats. Leaving the door open for Kavanaugh and Barrett when the Republicans were in a much weaker position, a foreseeable future weaker position, given that I was predicting it back during the Gorsuch hearings. And now with Roe v Wade overturned, the democrats want to extremely absurdly foolishly end the legislative filibuster, knowing full well there's no such thing as a "carveout for one issue", because the moment they go nuclear that's end of the filibuster for all legislation, same as judicial nominees. And the extremely absurdly foolishly part is because on top of the corrosive effects on our democracy and plunging us into civic danger, they want to do it right before the republicans retake congress. Which would leave only presidential veto to constrain Republicans for 2 years, and likely give them free rein in 2024-2026 at the rate we're going.



Of course, all this is back to a story about Dianne Feinstein who is being Weekend at Bernies'd anyway

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Quote (Goomshill @ 8 Jul 2022 02:16)
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dianne-feinstein-abortion-filibuster-carveout_n_62c736e9e4b02e0ac911b07d

Dianne Feinstein joins the list of Democrats embracing the call to arms to end the legislative filibuster so they can enshrine abortion protections in law at the federal level so that it can be immediately stripped away with another federal law the moment Republicans take control of congress after the midterms.

The logic goes something like this
The liberals got a court decision that usurped the power of the states and congress to regulate abortion. The liberals wanted to get more judges into the lower courts, so they went nuclear under Reid and ended the filibuster on judges, only for it to backfire spectacularly when Republicans got both more judges onto the lower courts and then felt justified in a tit-for-tat action to end the filibuster on the supreme court nominees. With the democrats very foolishly filibustering Gorsuch when Trump had an election tailwind, the entire party united behind him and extremely high approval ratings and an uncontroversial candidate- guaranteeing that even the likes of Romney and McCain would join in going nuclear to quash the hypocritical democrats. Leaving the door open for Kavanaugh and Barrett when the Republicans were in a much weaker position, a foreseeable future weaker position, given that I was predicting it back during the Gorsuch hearings. And now with Roe v Wade overturned, the democrats want to extremely absurdly foolishly end the legislative filibuster, knowing full well there's no such thing as a "carveout for one issue", because the moment they go nuclear that's end of the filibuster for all legislation, same as judicial nominees. And the extremely absurdly foolishly part is because on top of the corrosive effects on our democracy and plunging us into civic danger, they want to do it right before the republicans retake congress. Which would leave only presidential veto to constrain Republicans for 2 years, and likely give them free rein in 2024-2026 at the rate we're going.



Of course, all this is back to a story about Dianne Feinstein who is being Weekend at Bernies'd anyway


Democrats actually have a decent chance of holding the Senate this fall. They will get wiped out in the Senate in 2024, when the "lucky class of senators" (who ran in three consecutive strong years for Democrats, 2006, 2012 and 2018) comes up for reelection in a presidential year. Manchin, Tester and the like will be toast.

They might also bank a lot on Trump being the GOP nominee again in 2024, and public opinion on him still being extremely polarized and hardened, with a slight but persistent majority loathing him. So there probably is a path to nuking the filibuster for abortion and getting away with it. It's of course still a foolish approach since the risk would be huge, as you pointed out, but also since allowing Republican hardliners to overreach on the issue is the far smarter long-term strategy for Democrats.

So yes, I agree with you that it's a stupid idea for Democrats to nuke the filibuster this summer, but there is at least some logic to it.

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Jul 7 2022 11:47pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 7 2022 05:16pm)
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dianne-feinstein-abortion-filibuster-carveout_n_62c736e9e4b02e0ac911b07d

Dianne Feinstein joins the list of Democrats embracing the call to arms to end the legislative filibuster so they can enshrine abortion protections in law at the federal level so that it can be immediately stripped away with another federal law the moment Republicans take control of congress after the midterms.

The logic goes something like this
The liberals got a court decision that usurped the power of the states and congress to regulate abortion. The liberals wanted to get more judges into the lower courts, so they went nuclear under Reid and ended the filibuster on judges, only for it to backfire spectacularly when Republicans got both more judges onto the lower courts and then felt justified in a tit-for-tat action to end the filibuster on the supreme court nominees. With the democrats very foolishly filibustering Gorsuch when Trump had an election tailwind, the entire party united behind him and extremely high approval ratings and an uncontroversial candidate- guaranteeing that even the likes of Romney and McCain would join in going nuclear to quash the hypocritical democrats. Leaving the door open for Kavanaugh and Barrett when the Republicans were in a much weaker position, a foreseeable future weaker position, given that I was predicting it back during the Gorsuch hearings. And now with Roe v Wade overturned, the democrats want to extremely absurdly foolishly end the legislative filibuster, knowing full well there's no such thing as a "carveout for one issue", because the moment they go nuclear that's end of the filibuster for all legislation, same as judicial nominees. And the extremely absurdly foolishly part is because on top of the corrosive effects on our democracy and plunging us into civic danger, they want to do it right before the republicans retake congress. Which would leave only presidential veto to constrain Republicans for 2 years, and likely give them free rein in 2024-2026 at the rate we're going.



Of course, all this is back to a story about Dianne Feinstein who is being Weekend at Bernies'd anyway


Is this news? Didn't she vote to end the legislative filibuster regarding voting rights? The legislative filibuster only benefits Republicans in the long run so it makes sense for Dems to end it ASAP.
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