d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate > October Invasion Of Israel
Prev18999009019029031672Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 29,450
Joined: Mar 24 2011
Gold: 200.00
Warn: 50%
Feb 7 2024 11:31pm
Quote (jspolice @ 7 Feb 2024 23:25)
Hm, where have I heard that kind of rhetoric before?

Did he say what it means? How many killed women and children? 50k? 100k? All of them, because it's "absolute"?


At least no one has to make new accounts to "debate".

Only a coward would make a multi like you did.

So what you got suspended and figured "fuck it I'm going to make a multi".

Just wondering how you expect anyone to take YOU seriously when you had to make a new account because you were suspended for being dumber then the rest of us :bonk:

Get back on your main account to debate....oh wait you CAN'T :locked:
Member
Posts: 22,267
Joined: Aug 17 2021
Gold: 1,546.83
Warn: 30%
Feb 7 2024 11:32pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Feb 7 2024 09:31pm)
At least no one has to make new accounts to "debate".

Only a coward would make a multi like you did.

So what you got suspended and figured "fuck it I'm going to make a multi".

Just wondering how you expect anyone to take YOU seriously when you had to make a new account because you were suspended for being dumber then the rest of us :bonk:

Get back on your main account to debate....oh wait you CAN'T :locked:


:thumbsup:
Banned
Posts: 36
Joined: Feb 6 2024
Gold: 0.00
Feb 7 2024 11:34pm


Quote (WhiteSouned @ Feb 8 2024 06:27am)
The war is against Hamas , not the Palestinians.
Don’t parrot numbers that Hamas-UNRWA provides as it proves anything.


Palestinian reported death tolls have a long track record of remarkable accuracy and even tend to undercount. Literally no serious person denies the staggering amount of innocent lives lost. The whole world can see the incredible brutality and the resulting suffering in real time. Efforts to smear that as Hamas propaganda are desperate and cynical. No one buys those lies any more. Even the Americans are slowly getting sick of it, and they have a long history of excusing civilian deaths in the Middle East.

This post was edited by jspolice on Feb 7 2024 11:36pm
Member
Posts: 29,450
Joined: Mar 24 2011
Gold: 200.00
Warn: 50%
Feb 7 2024 11:35pm
Quote (jspolice @ 7 Feb 2024 23:34)
https://i.imgur.com/mQTXeQI.png



Palestinian death tolls have a long track record of remarkable accuracy and tend to undercount. Literally no serious person denies the staggering amount of innocent lives lost. The whole world can see the incredible brutality and the resulting suffering in real time. Efforts to smear that as Hamas propaganda are desperate and cynical. No one buys those lies any more. Even the Americans are slowly getting sick of it, and they have a long history of excusing civilian deaths in the Middle East.


Reported for multi

t4t
Member
Posts: 5,037
Joined: May 7 2022
Gold: 177.00
Feb 8 2024 12:00am
The neutrals in the world are horrified by the Israeli response. The only people who support them are those who were already in bed with them. Palestine is not Hamas, just like the IRA didn't truly represent the will of the Irish people. Corruption on both sides have festered this whole conflict into a black and white version of events that is wholly unrepresentative of the reality on the ground. I just hope for peace, even a tenuous peace. People should really look to the peace process in Northern Ireland as a lesson in developing this. In the 60's and 70's it seemed inconceivable, yet today we live quite comfortably side by side, despite our differences. It is a failure of both Palestine and Israel that this hasn't been the goal since, hell, the 1950s. Truly a depressing state of affairs. My heart bleeds for the victims on both sides of this conflict. Humans are humans.
Member
Posts: 54,234
Joined: May 26 2005
Gold: 4,945.67
Feb 8 2024 12:32am
Quote (NeesyLad @ 8 Feb 2024 07:00)
The neutrals in the world are horrified by the Israeli response. The only people who support them are those who were already in bed with them. Palestine is not Hamas, just like the IRA didn't truly represent the will of the Irish people. Corruption on both sides have festered this whole conflict into a black and white version of events that is wholly unrepresentative of the reality on the ground. I just hope for peace, even a tenuous peace. People should really look to the peace process in Northern Ireland as a lesson in developing this. In the 60's and 70's it seemed inconceivable, yet today we live quite comfortably side by side, despite our differences. It is a failure of both Palestine and Israel that this hasn't been the goal since, hell, the 1950s. Truly a depressing state of affairs. My heart bleeds for the victims on both sides of this conflict. Humans are humans.


You know what really helped the peace process in Northern Ireland to make progress? When republicans stopped bombing stuff.
Also keep in mind that you never had either side in the NI conflict vowing to cleanse the place of the other side in genocidal fashion, so the stakes were never as existential as they are for Israel and the Palestinians.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 8 2024 12:38am
Member
Posts: 5,037
Joined: May 7 2022
Gold: 177.00
Feb 8 2024 12:53am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 8 2024 02:32pm)
You know what really helped the peace process in Northern Ireland to make progress? When republicans stopped bombing stuff.
Also keep in mind that you never had either side in the NI conflict vowing to cleanse the place of the other side in genocidal fashion, so the stakes were never as existential as they are for Israel and the Palestinians.


you really don't know much if you think that's how it went. It isn't even remotely accurate, either. The main thing that ended the conflict was the reduction of the gerrymandering of votes, allowing people to have an avenue of expression other than violence. It was a very small, unrepresntative minority that continued violence after this. Even by the 80s the vast majority of active IRA splinter groups were in no way supported by anyone within the community, and had devolved into paramilitary gangs. The same happened with the Unionists. You still have any number of groups claiming to be the IRA/UDA/UVF/INLA.. none of them have any political aspect. They are gangs hiding under the guise of a political movement that predated them. Please, read some history outside your own country before even trying to engage. Your ignorance is vast, and I refuse to undertake the burden of educating you.

I guess growing up in it makes it easy to forget just how little of the truth actually seeps out to the rest of the world ;)
Member
Posts: 54,234
Joined: May 26 2005
Gold: 4,945.67
Feb 8 2024 01:38am
Quote (NeesyLad @ 8 Feb 2024 07:53)
you really don't know much if you think that's how it went. It isn't even remotely accurate, either. The main thing that ended the conflict was the reduction of the gerrymandering of votes, allowing people to have an avenue of expression other than violence. It was a very small, unrepresntative minority that continued violence after this. Even by the 80s the vast majority of active IRA splinter groups were in no way supported by anyone within the community, and had devolved into paramilitary gangs. The same happened with the Unionists. You still have any number of groups claiming to be the IRA/UDA/UVF/INLA.. none of them have any political aspect. They are gangs hiding under the guise of a political movement that predated them. Please, read some history outside your own country before even trying to engage. Your ignorance is vast, and I refuse to undertake the burden of educating you.

I guess growing up in it makes it easy to forget just how little of the truth actually seeps out to the rest of the world ;)


The point is that the republican side didn't run around proclaiming how they would 'cleanse' Northern Ireland of any Protestants "from the mountains to the channel", which made it feasible for the British side to give them more political representation and power to begin with.
When one side doesn't even recognize the other side's right to exist (and acts accordingly any chance it gets), a peace process becomes fundamentally impossible.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 8 2024 01:38am
Member
Posts: 18,135
Joined: Dec 3 2006
Gold: 0.00
Feb 8 2024 03:24am
Quote (jspolice @ 8 Feb 2024 07:25)
Hm, where have I heard that kind of rhetoric before?

Did he say what it means? How many killed women and children? 50k? 100k? All of them, because it's "absolute"?


He said we will obliterate Hamas, and this is what is going to happend if you like it or not.
He also said Israel will giver humanitarian corridor for Gazans.

We have a saying in hebrew
“The dogs are barking and the convoy keeps on going”
So go ahead “bark”
Member
Posts: 5,377
Joined: Feb 5 2022
Gold: 2,200.11
Feb 8 2024 05:32am
Quote (bogie160 @ Feb 7 2024 11:20pm)
South Africa is an irrelevant and criminal nation.


Sorry I meant Saudi Arabia. It's noteworthy because they were so close to normalization with israel but I'm sure it's just political pandering.
Quote (Many_Names @ Feb 8 2024 12:22am)
Yesterday, Netanyahu declared we are going for an absolute win, it will take a few more months not years.


If you take rafah you just might. I guess it all comes down to how well stocked hamas is. It's difficult to gauge atlantis' success but if it's effective enough, then that very well may be true. The real question though is: what about the north? At some point in time yall gonna have to do something about that because hez has been ramping up the attacks lately.
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev18999009019029031672Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll